FTP and Pokerstars deals are not random - Page 3 - Poker Beats Brags and Variance

I am a weaker player, and appearently PS does not know it, because they are NOT pushing any $$ my way, as is required in the proposed model.

I have just let Cust Service know that I stink, and I want some $$.

Awaiting reply.

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10-24-2008 , 04:02 PM

#52

JarnoV

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Has anyone considered the possibility that 2+2 is rigged?

I think it is.

Also, I think the only real random flop is 3

. I think they should just deal this flop ad infinitum. I can then retire my lousy job and become a professional flop check-raiser.

Variance: I had to edit this post at least nine times. Make that ten.

Last edited by JarnoV; 10-24-2008 at 04:09 PM.

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10-24-2008 , 08:32 PM

#53

Sugar Nut

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Originally Posted by kylephilly

wrong? then it wouldn't be rigged ducy

It's rigged as soon as the good player doesn't win 100%

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10-24-2008 , 08:56 PM

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AceD_

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10-24-2008 , 09:21 PM

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doodydota

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Originally Posted by played_for_years

If you have a lot of experience playing live you will quickly realize that FTP and Pokerstars do not have random deals. There is no doubt that the better players will win a lot of money if they put in enough time, but there is no way that the outcome of the cards is random on either of these sites.

If you are an excellent player, they are cheating you for about half the money that you should be winning.

Of course many fools will rush in and flame this post because they are so certain that the sites are legit. Just like UB was legit. Just like Absolute was legit. Open up your eyes and realize that just because you win a lot of money does not mean that you are not being cheated out of a portion of your expectancy against the other players. I’m not sure why so many people rush to discredit anyone who posts about non-random dealing. No one oversees and enforces any sort of legitimacy on these sites. They make much more money if they shift some of the winnings back to the lesser players. It is a piece of cake to code this into the software.

The question is whether you want to put up with the punishment of constantly being cheated out of a portion of your winnings. And for most winning players, the answer is that they will put up with it because even winning a portion of what you should win pays better and allows a better lifestyle than most of the alternatives.

Get a clue and fight back against being violated instead of constantly trying to beat down anyone who brings up the possibility that you are not getting a fair shake.

Today I feel like that.

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10-24-2008 , 09:37 PM

#56

mossymoo

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Originally Posted by G1982

[ ] original
[ ] funny
[x] gimmick account
[x] moran <-----LOL
[x] ban OP

fyp

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10-24-2008 , 10:03 PM

#57

Thread Cat, imo

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It's called rake

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07-19-2013 , 01:37 PM

#58

1.1.2013

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Yep pokerstars is rigged 100%. But what can you do. Only thing is not to play there. but it is hard when it is pretty much the only site with sngs running.

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07-19-2013 , 01:52 PM

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~Caligula~

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Originally Posted by 1.1.2013

Yep pokerstars is rigged 100%. But what can you do. Only thing is not to play there. but it is hard when it is pretty much the only site with sngs running.

100% you say?

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07-19-2013 , 01:58 PM

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1.1.2013

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yep

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07-19-2013 , 05:15 PM

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Jesterful

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I mean, wtf were you looking for when you decided to bump a 5 year old post?!?

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07-19-2013 , 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1.1.2013

Yep pokerstars is rigged 100%. But what can you do. Only thing is not to play there. but it is hard when it is pretty much the only site with sngs running.

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07-19-2013 , 05:43 PM

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FireNine

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07-19-2013 , 07:53 PM

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orb_dam_u

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I think it's rigged to benefit the nits.

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07-19-2013 , 09:56 PM

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F2012

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Originally Posted by Jesterful

I mean, wtf were you looking for when you decided to bump a 5 year old post?!?

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07-19-2013 , 11:33 PM

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robertlanglois

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Are you the same dude who calls a raise with T5o from the BB preflop?

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10-09-2014 , 07:59 PM

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1.1.2013

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One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite

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10-09-2014 , 08:03 PM

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Rob_10108

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Originally Posted by 1.1.2013

One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite

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10-09-2014 , 08:48 PM

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blakkkat

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Originally Posted by 1.1.2013

One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite

did u have to dig up a 2year old riggie thread?

there are plenty new ones to post your revenge on..

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10-10-2014 , 03:24 AM

#72

FranFran

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lolo

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10-10-2014 , 04:17 AM

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suitedjustice

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Lrn2play riggie

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10-10-2014 , 06:58 AM

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ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

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Originally Posted by Quad_me's

i love the UB reference... im pretty sure people realised they were getting cheated

also all in EV calculators often show about even over time (look at WCG riders NL25 prop bet, he was only 64cents off his expected winnings.)

you'll be a better player when you realise they are not rigged.

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10-10-2014 , 07:39 AM

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MartimC

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One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite
One day the truth will come out and they will ban pokerstars and seize all the funds. ****in rigg****holesite

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