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10-17-2008 , 10:36 PM

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Canireally

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is it me or do underpairs win 90% when all in pre....? just checked my pt stats and the my last 30 times I've had and over pair vs under pair i've won 6 times....?

Kinda makes me think that I'd be better off getting it in bad....? anyone with similar results?

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10-17-2008 , 10:38 PM

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biggetje

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Yes I play both on full tilt and party poker. On full tilt I've had an over pair vs under pair 255 times and won 2 times. On party poker I've had an over pair vs under pair 302 times and won 301 times.

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10-17-2008 , 10:40 PM

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ShipMoar

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it's a thing called variance, but u can stick with your theory and get it in bad.

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10-17-2008 , 10:44 PM

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THDE

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According to my database they hold 82% of the time.

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10-17-2008 , 10:45 PM

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ikestoys

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they hold about half the time, they either do or don't

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10-17-2008 , 10:46 PM

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J4est

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I think that if you got an over pair in against an under pair, you might lose like 20% of the time or something like that. wtf do i know though

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10-17-2008 , 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Canireally

is it me or do underpairs win 90% when all in pre....? just checked my pt stats and the my last 30 times I've had and over pair vs under pair i've won 6 times....?

Kinda makes me think that I'd be better off getting it in bad....? anyone with similar results?

6/30=20% imo
so which is it?

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10-17-2008 , 10:59 PM

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jarkko5

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easily worst thread ive read today

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10-17-2008 , 11:04 PM

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JokersAttack

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it's a tactic employed by full tilt poker so that the bad players stay around longer thus generating more rake for the site.

the best way to exploit this is to get it in with small pairs when you are sure your opponents have an overpair, because you will be a favourite. you better hope they don't have overcards though, because then you will lose for sure

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10-17-2008 , 11:19 PM

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Canireally

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Originally Posted by steve1238

6/30=20% imo
so which is it?

so I'm winning 20% of the time when I have an overpair vs underpair. wow! that's normal.

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10-17-2008 , 11:21 PM

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PeaceOut

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Originally Posted by jarkko5

easily worst thread ive read today

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Originally Posted by jarkko5

[x] worst thread ive seen today

dude... you can only have one worst thread of the day...these are both today. diff threads

do you have anything else to say ???????

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10-17-2008 , 11:21 PM

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Canireally

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Originally Posted by THDE

According to my database they hold 82% of the time.

but are these all in situations preflop?

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10-17-2008 , 11:22 PM

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dtat0529

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lol @ OP and this thread. stack me with 19% equity all day please

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10-17-2008 , 11:26 PM

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Gonzirra

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Originally Posted by biggetje

Yes I play both on full tilt and party poker. On full tilt I've had an over pair vs under pair 255 times and won 2 times. On party poker I've had an over pair vs under pair 302 times and won 301 times.

lol

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10-18-2008 , 12:20 AM

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Foundinflood

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I'm one of those guys you play against that win with the underpair. I win with the underpair about 40-45% of the time it seems like for the past month.
However I win with the overpair close to 80%.

In all seriousness, it's variance man play long enough and it will straighten out.

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10-18-2008 , 12:26 AM

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doodydota

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LoLz I always hit a set. HAR HAR HAR

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10-18-2008 , 12:28 AM

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jarkko5

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Originally Posted by PeaceOut

dude... you can only have one worst thread of the day...these are both today. diff threads

do you have anything else to say ???????

the first one i read was the worst of the day, then i read the next one and it was even more terrible making the worst of the day, obviously

do i have anything else to say? yeah ur post was the worst ive read all week

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10-18-2008 , 12:45 AM

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Gospy

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If you have this information, start getting it in with all low pairs... You are at worst a flip and possibly dominating them. Stop complaining and adjust to make more money.

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10-18-2008 , 01:54 AM

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MMaximum

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Originally Posted by jarkko5

easily worst thread ive read today

i think i saw you wrote this on like 6 threads today. Are they just getting worse and worse? Or all suck equally?

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10-18-2008 , 02:44 AM

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runhot

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over pair is 50/50 vs under pair

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10-18-2008 , 06:06 PM

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hobbes05

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Originally Posted by ShipMoar

it's a thing called variance, but u can stick with your theory and get it in bad.

i hate people like u

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10-18-2008 , 07:24 PM

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roman375

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The best course of action is to shove any two cards (especially 27) so you can suck out on any PPs or overpairs. Thank me later.

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10-18-2008 , 07:33 PM

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Craggoo

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Ask your opponent if he has you beat and if he doesnt respond shove it arrrr-in!

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10-18-2008 , 09:13 PM

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triplej2688

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[x] stfu

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10-18-2008 , 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by triplej2688

[x] stfu

[x] douchebag

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