I would like to try and reach Supernova Elite in 12 months (possibly even just 2011.) Starting whenever all bets are booked. The catch is I only get to start with $100.

Not sure on any of the technical terms at this point which is why I am posting here. To gauge interest. Answer questions and get suggestions.

This isn’t a troll propbet or me going fishing for attention. I am dead serious about this, and pending enough action I am sure I want to give this a shot.

I am looking to take at least 100k action regardless of what the odds wind up. 5:1 = my 20k to win 100k etc. Not sure how much I am willing to bet at this point, so lets say 20k minimum but almost definitely more.

I am currently SNE on stars and do a substantial amount of staking. So there would most likely be more funds in my account than just the BR. And obv I would earn fpps faster than bronze star etc. But it would be tracked separate, and I would ’pretend’ that I started as bronze and started with $100 in my account.

An audit and judge could/would obv prove if I was going out of my BR or buying bonuses when I didn’t have enough fpps etc

I would do this at cash games primarily. I wouldn’t be opposed to taking out things like hypers or whatever. But as I do not play them and when I have lost my butt, they are probably just good to keep them in there and just pretend like my account is brand new and I am allowed to play what any new account could play.

There will be a spirit of the bet clause for sure, that will say I cannot just dump at 1k sngs or whatever at the end to get there faster.

Also for profit clause, I think profiting at least 50k after RB seems fair. 50k would still be a decent feat for a new account. Though I do not plan on losing money at the tables, after looking up my PTR you will see why I am not stoked about a total win clause. But again, I cant just buy SNE either. I will be playing poker the entire time, not just flipping or throwing money away to win the bet.

Why am I doing this? Boredom pretty much. I could spend probably less time at my current levels winning more money at the tables and going for 2mil vpps (more money again and I have a small propbet on that already that I am obv going to lose if I do this one). But I just haven’t had the motivation to play this year, so I am looking to get that motivation back with a challenge.

Since this is a longer bet, I won't ask that reputable members escrow. Non reputable members will have to escrow (or at least partial escrow) or not bet.

Flame Away!

This would be interesting to follow. Did you ask PokerStars if it would be possible to open up a new account for this? That would make the bet more realistic.

And you forgot to include your screenname...

So once you lose your initial $100, the bet is over and you lose?

MrDurden is my SN

And no I never thought to ask them, don't know if that is possible. That would be sweet though, but it would be cool if I could at least try and maintain my current SNE status, though highly unlikely

Yes, unless there was some other clause put in place. Like for every $100 reload I lower the odds on the bet in bettors favor. example 5:1 I bust the first $100, odds drop to 4:1 etc etc. But I would be fine with one and done as well.

unless there is a winrate required i don't see how you could lose

well i would be ok with considering being required to win at the tables.

But I don't really see what you mean. A whopping 300 people get SNE each year with huge bankrolls.

So yeah you are right this must be cake...not to mention they do it in 12 months where I might have to do it in 9.5

^^^ 2 sne's arguing.

but seriously, 5:1 is crazy odds... you've been sne for last 2 years?! am not saying this is easy.... but for someone like you i'd say the chances that you could actually achieve this would be far closer to 1:1 or even 1:2 tbh. The other issue is that people don't want their money tied up for so long.

he is starting with $100, means he has to grind a BR first, then he has to put in crazy grind sessions EVERY DAY prob starting at the 7 month mark after finally building a roll

no escrow needed with solid rep. 3:1 is what i expect to get the odds at. 5:1 was an example.

I wish i could turn 100 into a decent BR in 2.5 months. I think its more like 4 months. If i don't bust. And mind you I can never drop limits basically. I have to constantly be pushing forward. I can't grind to 1k, drop to 200 and start over. I wouldn't have nearly enough time.

3:1 seems like a steal

gl though, will be following

I agree but no one likes propbets over 3:1. So I just hope to find terms that get max action.

Obv If i can book 150k in action at 5:1 i will do that instead of 3:1 lol.

And this is still just an interest thread, so I may want 5, I may want 10.

but i think I need to have this started by the 15th or so. I may even run it for fun if I get no action. But I will 99% quit before I am out of $2nl if there is no propbet.

LMFAO @ how everytime someone posts "I have $400 in my account Im going for SNE" and everyone gets in line to tell them how ******ed they are.

Now you say $100 -> SNE and suddenly its a lock.

I'm confused... which is it?

lol this

pretty obv their just hustlin to get odds lowered

I'l very likely take some action on this, hope it comes off

There's a pretty big difference between some random showing up in the SNE Pursuit thread and making claims like they can make SNE with XXX dollars, and a proven winner who has already earned SNE TWICE

Interested in action on this if the line is at 3:1 (although I can't book too much)

Impossible

For a 2x SNE who's a very experienced shortstacker yeah, this is a lock if he can hit a 1k BR in the first 2 months, especially getting something ridiculous like 5:1.

i would not be ssing and have not (besides testing cap tables) for months. I highly doubt this the best way for me to go about this bet.

SSing may be a way for me to hold off busting midway through while still racking up vpps but it def is not increasing my BR more than me FSing. Plus it is insanely swingy.

No, ssing will be played as a last ditch for me. Or once my BR is so big that I just need to crank out vpps and have enough profit padding that I could take a couple grand hit if the cards fall wrong.

But I agree 2x SNE def gives me an edge over some random.

But talking with more and more people and more and more propbets similar to this. The odds def seem to go towards the higher end, not trying to low ball it. This will not be below 3:1. I would rather do it for fun then get hosed here and fail twice.

I mean anyone can run the math and see how difficult this would be. It isn't as easy as say just turning 100 into 5k then im home free. If I do not get to 400nl+ fairly quickly I will have to quit. And the BR needed for those games, even if I played cap tables is pretty tremendous. 50 buyin swing = 4k.

I have got SNE on december 31st and 30th respectively the last 2 years, both times starting with a very large BR and starting out as supernova or supernova elite. You know how long it would be before I cleared my first 4k bonus? A couple months. You know how long it normally takes me? 2 weeks or less.

Not to mention I will need to play for 50+ hours a week even if I get to 400 in 4 months. Because I would still only have around 200k vpps. Its a double race. I can't just get vpps magically, because I need a BR. And I can't just get a BR magically because I need vpps.

I am not trying to convince anyone though. If you can't see the difficulty, do it yourself then, put up a propbet, and I will take the 20k-50k I would bet here and bet against you.

If you think it's so hard I'm not sure why you're attempting to do it. If it's for a challenge or whatever, why not just challenge yourself to become a better poker player and improve your winrate?

you used to be good at trolling

If you're talking about me, I'm not trolling.

yeah because that is apples to apples.

I have my own reasons, and one being that poker has become stagnant to me. Oh and the whole possibility of winning 100k+ doesnt hurt. Just because this might not seem fun and exciting to you, doesn't mean it isnt for me.

I like to mass table. I don't play live, I don't play less than 24 tables ever and wish I could play more. I am a reg at 400+. So I have about one more level to move up before I have to either switch games or play HU nosebleeds or something to actually have goals.

Things like this keep me in the mood to play poker. Just like the first year I went for sne at 1/2lhe no one had done it afaik so it was a challenge. Last year I switched from an lhe player to NL, another challenge. This year I am just still at NL, and have no desire to play PLO. So what challenges do I have to continue to 24 table and play cash?

Start over!!!

How about teach me

GL, wish u luck sir

sick sick sick. When does action need to be booked? Will be taking action on this.