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I am running 40BI under EV just in all-in pots. The all-pots is around 1-2% of the hands. What about all the other non-all-in pots?

Lets say i got KK
flop is Kx5c2c, i bet, he calls
turn 4c, i bet he calls
river 7c, check check and villian has Kx9c.

Those hands are not in my 40BI under EV graph. But I get those hands way waaaay too many times.
And yes, I could play better. But it's hard with all the bad beats.

OP did your downswing end??
So I guess at least 100k hands more for me

nice bounce back, GL

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12-06-2008 , 03:36 AM

#577

sluggger5x

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Decided to dip my toe back in the NL100 water tonight....

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $165.45
Hero (BTN): $114.15
SB: $100.00
BB: $116.10
UTG: $391.55
MP: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 5

2 folds, CO raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) K

(3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $7, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $72.50, CO requests TIME, CO folds, Hero raises to $110.65 all in, SB calls $24 all in

Turn: ($211.50) 3

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($211.50) Q

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $211.50
Hero shows 5

(a full house, Fives full of Threes)
SB shows 3

(four of a kind, Threes)
SB wins $208.50
(Rake: $3.00)

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12-06-2008 , 03:51 AM

#578

crackedquads

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Originally Posted by clownklauen

gl slugger,mainly with your state of mind,i quite dont think you can play anywhere near to your a-game with this history.
work on this.

i stopped reading after page 25,but i would love to get an explanation for this one.

FT:

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Hello Zachary,

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

I did have a look at your graph Zachary, and I will admit it looks to be one of the worst I have seen. We do apologize for the bad run of cards, it appears you are experiencing.

With that being said, unfortunately we do not offer a promotional bonus for players just because they are unable to win consistently at a certain limit.

What I can offer you, should be far more valuable and rewarding though. The doom switch on your account has been turned off and it is now completely up to you, on wether or not you win or lose. Start playing with some confidence again Zachary and most importantly stay positive. I can tell by the statistics under your account that you are a decent winning Poker player.

this got me confused,and i usually dont miss irony or sarcasm

were they joking?
were you faking the mail?
wtf,heeelp and explanation please

im in a sicker than sick be stretch in my discipline.moved down a limit and keep getting fcked over and over.feeling for you.

Rofl that FTP support tells him his doomswitch is now off and then he starts running well again.

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12-06-2008 , 04:44 AM

#579

Tacto

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wow, thats really not a nice graph. But think on the bright side. At least someone else has a good graph thanks to yours.... =\

GL next time

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12-15-2008 , 08:37 PM

#580

tvta

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Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $100.00
svchost (UTG): $114.40
pulp32 (MP): $255.50
pkt_diamonds (CO): $100.00
7upp (BTN): $163.55
sluggger5x (SB): $136.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J

1 fold, pulp32 raises to $3.50, 2 folds, sluggger5x calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($8.00) 2

(2 players)
sluggger5x bets $8, pulp32 raises to $16, sluggger5x raises to $54, pulp32 requests TIME, pulp32 calls $38

Turn: ($116.00) 5

(2 players)
sluggger5x bets $78.90 all in, pulp32 calls $78.90

River: ($273.80) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $273.80
pulp32 shows 5

(four of a kind, Fives)
sluggger5x shows A

(two pair, Kings and Fives)
pulp32 wins $270.80
(Rake: $3.00)

sluggger5x: [huckin]
Dealer: Hand #9513375424
HERO: lolol
sluggger5x: \\\phucking azzhole
Dealer: pulp32 has 15 seconds left to act
sluggger5x: god almighty
HERO: sucks to be you

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12-16-2008 , 04:02 AM

#581

sluggger5x

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Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $137.40
SB: $106.05
BB: $187.00
UTG: $215.05
Hero (MP): $109.75
CO: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with A

1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $10.50, BTN raises to $133.40 all in, Hero calls $95.25 all in

Turn: ($221.00) 3

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($221.00) 4

(2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $221.00
BTN shows Q

(a flush, Ace high)
Hero shows A

(a pair of Aces)
BTN wins $218.00
(Rake: $3.00)

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12-16-2008 , 04:27 AM

#582

Michaelson

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You realise we can all post hands like this right?

Kudos on running exceptionally badly and all, but you're turning this into a self-fullfilling prophecy. As long as you're thinking "no one's as unlucky as me" you probably shouldn't be playing at all.

Unless you know exactly what you're doing and this is just a clever ruse to make people try and suck out on you... I'd respect that.

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12-16-2008 , 05:19 AM

#583

Nichlemn

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Originally Posted by Michaelson

Thinking negatively causes you to run below all-in EV imo

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12-16-2008 , 05:39 AM

#584

Britessential

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Originally Posted by Michaelson

but you're turning this into a self-fullfilling prophecy. As long as you're thinking "no one's as unlucky as me" you probably shouldn't be playing at all.

I think this thread kind of gives him that authority

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12-16-2008 , 05:40 AM

#585

Michaelson

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Originally Posted by Nichlemn

Thinking negatively causes you to run below all-in EV imo

umm, no.

But if I were at the point where every time I took a beat I ran to post it in my "I'm the unluckiest player on the interwebz" sympathy thread, I'd hope that I'd realise it was time for a break from the game.

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12-16-2008 , 05:44 AM

#586

Michaelson

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Originally Posted by Britessential

I think this thread kind of gives him that authority

Luck is all past tense.

He ran exceptionally badly at the start of this year. Whether he still has been I don't know. But his future expectation is obviously just the same as anyone else's.

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01-02-2009 , 01:54 PM

#587

Mike Kelley

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Serious reply: 100 buyins over 320k hands is 1.5ptbb.

You're definitely an unlucky mother****er for this to be happening to you, but 1.5ptbb is not the difference between winning solidly and breaking even. I get that it's hard to keep a positive mentality when running bad over long periods, but you have to take an objective look at your game and find some stuff that you could do better. Even though it's hard, making sure that you're playing well is really, really important when you're running bad.

Also, I recommend reading Tommy Angelo's book if you haven't already. It might help your negative state of mind improve a little (it certainly did w/ me).

You are assuming he's running luck neutral every where else I guess?

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01-02-2009 , 03:43 PM

#588

rleidle

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The fact that any stock is being put into HEM's "EV Calculation" makes this whole thread suspect imo.

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01-02-2009 , 04:04 PM

#589

downbytheriver

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The fact that any stock is being put into HEM's "EV Calculation" makes this whole thread suspect imo.

this

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02-12-2009 , 08:06 PM

#590

karimdaniel

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In this world, is the destiny of poker controlled by some tragidental entity or law? Is it like the hand of god howering above? atleast it is true, that man has no controll. Even over his own EV

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02-12-2009 , 09:15 PM

#591

not a model

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Originally Posted by karimdaniel

In this world, is the destiny of poker controlled by some tragidental entity or law? Is it like the hand of god howering above? atleast it is true, that man has no controll. Even over his own EV

stop making up words. and then shut up.

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02-15-2009 , 05:22 PM

#592

sluggger5x

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In case anyone out there still cares, 09 so far:

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02-15-2009 , 05:25 PM

#593

NemoInDeniaL

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Originally Posted by Michaelson

Best advice in thread

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02-15-2009 , 05:34 PM

#594

Paul McSwizzle

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i have been following this thread since you made it, and everytime i see it i wonder how you're still rolled?

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02-15-2009 , 05:39 PM

#595

sluggger5x

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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle

i have been following this thread since you made it, and everytime i see it i wonder how you're still rolled?

All nl50...

Everything else...

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02-15-2009 , 06:08 PM

#596

SoulPower

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If it's really that bad just stop. Plus your HEM EV that you're so obsessed with has been break even for 100k.

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02-15-2009 , 06:26 PM

#597

alphamike

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Originally Posted by SoulPower

If it's really that bad just stop. Plus your HEM EV that you're so obsessed with has been break even for 100k.

Wow people like this are complete idiots. The man is 100 buyins below equity after 400k hands!!!! How many HM graphs even say that?!? I'd say that 99% of the people on these forums wouldn't be able to handle this kind of a run.

Slugger, don't listen to people who have no idea what it means to run bad. You have endured to worst run recorded in online poker history. Hope it turns around for you. Kudos for sticking it out so long! Not many people could do that.