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09-12-2013 , 01:52 AM
Sanity check on high/high/low board textures, which are always the most tenuous for me.

a) BTN is loose - opening ~60-70% on button. He cbets often, plays fairly honestly on the turn, and gets stubborn with ace-high on even some very bad boards. He will delay until the turn in position with most top pair+ hands.

b) BTN is a little loose-passive.

#1: A Q
#2: A J
#3: Q Q

Flop: K J 2

Last edited by Pid Koker; 09-12-2013 at 02:00 AM.
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09-12-2013 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Pid Koker
Sanity check on high/high/low board textures, which are always the most tenuous for me.

a) BTN is loose - opening ~60-70% on button. He cbets often, plays fairly honestly on the turn, and gets stubborn with ace-high on even some very bad boards. He will delay until the turn in position with most top pair+ hands.

b) BTN is a little loose-passive.

#1: A Q
#2: A J
#3: Q Q

Flop: K J 2
You are in the BB?
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09-12-2013 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lawdude
You are in the BB?
Oh, yeah. I am.
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09-12-2013 , 05:28 AM
What is the question?
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09-12-2013 , 07:44 AM
I would obtain the lead either pf or on the flop with all of these hands, and bet the turn. What to do from there is dependent on the turn card and what exactly a little loose passive means. If he opens 60-70%, he's probably capable of enough aggression that I wouldn't fold any of these hands at any point.
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09-12-2013 , 01:03 PM
Assuming you call 100% in BB pre,

Against A) I play #1 passively until I improve and C/R 2 & 3 on the flop

Against B) I'm more inclined to fast play all 3 hands on the flop. Depends on his postflop aggression. Against certain players, you could just Ch/C #1 and lead improvement on the turn or river.
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09-12-2013 , 01:26 PM
I wanna x/r, lead turn all of them v both...
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09-12-2013 , 01:47 PM
You have a strong hand against a wide-range BTN. If you find these hands tenuous, how do you react when you have marginal hands that miss??

Should experiment with having a 3b! PF range. (A) is opening way too many hands (WITHG suggests button opening 40%). Punish him by 3b!. He's also bad and showdown bound. (B) sounds generically weak. Most LP players don't know how to raise-bluff, or float correctly. Many will check back flops or turns. Better to have a 3b! PF range, and these hands should be in it.

Deception and balanced ranges are better left for good opponents.
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09-12-2013 , 02:23 PM
I agree with Slide.

Hand 1 I c/c until I improve (Ace or nuts) and then raise. I plan to showdown vs Villain 1 and plan to c/f river UI vs villain 2.

Hands 2 and 3 I c/r and bet down, planning to showdown, maybe folding QQ on the river if an ace comes off and i get raised.
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09-12-2013 , 03:20 PM
All 3 hands if called preflop in my opinion want to play flop similarly against both opponents.

Turn and river play will change according to runout and player tendencies. All 3 hands have showdown value and would err on the side making sure I got there unless villian is unlikely to bluff hand 1 on the river without at least a pair.

No need to value own yourself in hands 2 and 3 where no better hands are folding and plenty of worse hands will value bet for you.
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09-12-2013 , 03:43 PM
I check the turn quite often against player A regardless of what I did on the flop.
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