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01-08-2016 , 11:40 PM

brick

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,889

River: hero checks, millisecond delay, villain bets.

You know that moment. The millisecond. The micro-moment that shouldn't have been.

You were expecting the bet in tempo. But it was out of tempo by a single millisecond. Did he make the nuts? Did he decide to bluff? Did he have a mini-seizure?

Example hand:
Hero raises AKo in EP, LP a unknown middle aged clean-cut man 3-bets.
Blinds fold. Hero just calls.
Flop: AhJh4c
Check, bet, Hero raises, villain 3-bets, call.
Turn: 5c
check, call
River: 9h
check, millisecond delay, bet.

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01-09-2016 , 12:12 AM

CrazyLond

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,006

I think it's a chop. The millisecond was the time it took for him to decide the flush card wasn't scary enough to check back.

Of course, regardless of what it means, we can't do anything other than call here.

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01-09-2016 , 03:59 AM

phunkphish

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,902

This is nothing to me. Either you have a read strong enough to act on or you don't. here I don't, and don't think you do.

If I fold it's because of the flop 3b -- for some people this is never ak and always 2p or FD

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01-12-2016 , 03:07 AM

etm.

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 234

Everyone does it differently, after awhile in the same player pool you should know who always has it and who might be last second bluffing. Without reads I just ignore it and do what I was going to do anyway. In this hand whether I have a read or not I'm still calling.

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01-12-2016 , 11:29 PM

steveistheman84

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,438

i know what you're talking about. usually an online thing. like when i'm bluffcatching and feeling alright about it until he puts a 1 sec delay on the river, then i'm ****ed.

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06-29-2016 , 05:29 PM

brandnew12

stranger

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1

AA, JJ, AJ are only betting river. Did you have the Kh in your hand?

Heard DL closed down and there is a new place in town? Well, I quit poker. We should golf man. Message me!

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06-29-2016 , 07:58 PM

George Rice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,909

Back when I played online, the hesitation bet was almost always a head fake. You were probably beat. It always seemed to be a beat off the natural timing, as if villain needed to think for a moment. He didn't.

Edit: leaving the above up fwiw. But I now see this was a live game, not online. I'd say villain isn't bluffing. You're probably beat but might have a chop. I expect to see at least two pair here, maybe a set. If the turn was check, check (you wrote check, call, did you mean check, bet, call?) then he probably has a flush. Personally, I consider folding if I played with this player somewhat and had no reason to believe he might be out of line here.

Last edited by George Rice; 06-29-2016 at 08:08 PM.

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06-29-2016 , 10:24 PM

ZOMG_RIGGED!

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 17,502

Weird bump. People don't "think" about making bluffs because they're worried it will get them called lighter and more importantly when people bluff theyve basically always already decided on the flop if they're going to barrel or check back.

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