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07-22-2015 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jonboy72
I was planning on driving to la tomorrow from Phoenix. It's already a pretty long trip. Am a bit concerned that because of the collapsed bridge that the already long trip will be three hours longer. Is there an easy way to go around it am I really going to have to drive to San Diego first?

Going mainly for poker?
I'd just hop on a SW flight and ask commerce to send a car.
07-23-2015 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
Dr. Phil itt; I think PaulV was looking for some newlywed advice . . .
screw that mope, won't even invite me to the side games.
07-23-2015 , 12:54 AM
And "side games" is a euphemism for? Banging brides maids?
07-23-2015 , 02:58 AM
Just saw an unintentionally hilarious commercial for "responsible gambling" from CET casinos, saying things like 'we don't want you to gamble when you've had too much to drink'. Yeah right, that's why we have cocktail waitresses who bring free drinks to the gaming areas but overcharge for them in bars and restaurants.

Oh, also, 'you shouldn't gamble when you're lonely and depressed'. When exactly would I be able to gamble then?
07-23-2015 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
Just saw an unintentionally hilarious commercial for "responsible gambling" from CET casinos, saying things like 'we don't want you to gamble when you've had too much to drink'. Yeah right, that's why we have cocktail waitresses who bring free drinks to the gaming areas but overcharge for them in bars and restaurants.

Oh, also, 'you shouldn't gamble when you're lonely and depressed'. When exactly would I be able to gamble then?
but that's a totally redundant advertisement right? i mean, the gambling can't be responsible anyways since it's not an independent choice...

and the waitresses can't control bringing alcohol as that's also not something they choose to do.

and there's no way to disprove these conjectures. ALL HAIL COYLE
07-23-2015 , 04:00 AM
I guess CET really had to make the advertisement. Still found it interestingly disingenuous.
07-23-2015 , 12:09 PM
Better late than never...

07-24-2015 , 02:20 PM
pf checkup. a strong player opens CO. how is this for a 3b range OTB:

22+
A9o+
A7s+
KJ+
KTs+
QJ
QTs+
JTs
T9s
07-24-2015 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
pf checkup. a strong player opens CO. how is this for a 3b range OTB:

22+
A9o+
A7s+
KJ+
KTs+
QJ
QTs+
JTs
T9s
Strong player or nit?
07-24-2015 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
pf checkup. a strong player opens CO. how is this for a 3b range OTB:

22+
A9o+
A7s+
KJ+
KTs+
QJ
QTs+
JTs
T9s
i'd drop 22, 33, and 44 (just personal preference)

i'd also go down to A8o or A7o and A6s or A5s (ace is pretty powerful here).

i may not go as low as T9s though and cut it at QJs or JTs. prob slightly controversial but even in position, high cards matter vs. a strong player. you can sim this pretty easily to see how each hand does vs. various strong player ranges.
07-24-2015 , 03:02 PM
I fold 22-44, but raise all Axs, A7o, K9s, KTo, and 89s. I don't have a big online database to go off like the all-stars do though so pretty much guessing. Obviously it will change based on who the blinds are.
07-24-2015 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertCat
Strong player or nit?
best poker player in history of universe.
07-24-2015 , 03:46 PM
I didn't know we played together recently.
07-24-2015 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
I didn't know we played together recently.
you were button in 9 seat....
07-24-2015 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyLond
I fold 22-44, but raise all Axs, A7o, K9s, KTo, and 89s. I don't have a big online database to go off like the all-stars do though so pretty much guessing. Obviously it will change based on who the blinds are.
This is basically my exact range too. Might add down to JTo. High cards are best as someone said but you still need to hit a variety of board textures. It wouldn't surprise me if online superstars have 76s etc in their range here
07-24-2015 , 05:17 PM
I like some of the range of UpHill, but if it were really against the best player in the history of the universe, I would cut it way back, figuring his higher skill level is going to cancel out the value of my position.
07-24-2015 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
pf checkup. a strong player opens CO. how is this for a 3b range OTB:

22+
A9o+
A7s+
KJ+
KTs+
QJ
QTs+
JTs
T9s
my default range looks something like this,

55+
ATo+
A5s+
KJo+
K9s+
QJo
Q9s+
J9s+
T9s
98s
87s
67s
07-24-2015 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
my default range looks something like this,

55+
ATo+
A5s+
KJo+
K9s+
QJo
Q9s+
J9s+
T9s
98s
87s
67s
finally. thought I was reading a thread full of 85 year old women
07-25-2015 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ZOMG_RIGGED!
finally. thought I was reading a thread full of 85 year old women
LOL. So the difference between young men and old women is ~6 hands?

Agreed throw in suited connectors, but not all of them all the time. Pick two suits and 3b w those.

85yo woman, out.
07-25-2015 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rodeo
my default range looks something like this,

...
ATo+
A5s+
...
When we're (likely) heads up, is suitedness really worth 5 pips on the kicker?

A quick stove says no, at least vs the CO range I picked.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.392% 41.55% 02.85% 2808558996 192428676.00 { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 55.608% 52.76% 02.85% 3566759844 192428676.00 { ATo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.625% 48.07% 03.56% 1125910824 83358928.00 { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 48.375% 44.82% 03.56% 1049803192 83358928.00 { A5s }
07-25-2015 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by UpHillBothWays
LOL. So the difference between young men and old women is ~6 hands?

Agreed throw in suited connectors, but not all of them all the time. Pick two suits and 3b w those.

85yo woman, out.
If the orthopedic shoes fit...

You want to fold T9s. You're a nit
07-25-2015 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ReasonableGuy
When we're (likely) heads up, is suitedness really worth 5 pips on the kicker?

A quick stove says no, at least vs the CO range I picked.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.392% 41.55% 02.85% 2808558996 192428676.00 { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 55.608% 52.76% 02.85% 3566759844 192428676.00 { ATo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.625% 48.07% 03.56% 1125910824 83358928.00 { 55+, A2s+, K5s+, Q7s+, J8s+, T8s+, 98s, A7o+, A5o, K9o+, Q9o+, J9o+ }
Hand 1: 48.375% 44.82% 03.56% 1049803192 83358928.00 { A5s }
i'm happy with having at least 45% and even that may be conservative.
position counts for a lot and initiative isn't anything to scoff at.
vs. the villain as described i like to have a bunch of Ax in my range, but i'm much happier adding AXs before AXo.
vs. weaker competition i may start adding some more AXo, but not many. like maybe only A9o.
the times it goes 3 or 4 ways to the flop (like when SB calls and/or BB calls) i'd rather have A5s than A8o.
also, you should be more concerned with how the whole range does vs. the CO range rather than each specific hand.
funny that you pick on A5s rather than 67s.

Last edited by rodeo; 07-25-2015 at 07:16 PM.
07-26-2015 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathDonkey
It wouldn't surprise me if online superstars have 76s etc in their range here
Yeah I'm almost sure they do.
07-27-2015 , 12:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gaming_mouse
pf checkup. a strong player opens CO. how is this for a 3b range OTB:

22+
A9o+
A7s+
KJ+
KTs+
QJ
QTs+
JTs
T9s
i wouldn't ever consider 22 or 33. is that good or am i missing much by not 3betting them?
07-27-2015 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tiger415
i wouldn't ever consider 22 or 33. is that good or am i missing much by not 3betting them? As with suited connectors, I only do them some of the time. What is the huge diff between T9s and 67s?
nah it's probably correct. my knowledge of ranges like that is rusty. i'd trust DD.

      
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