CAZ 20-40, I have been folding my big blind regularly with the old T2s, J5o, and 95o and that fact, more than the two racks I've eaten running into AA three consecutive raising hands is eating at me. An unreformable TAG raises in MP, colded by tight dealer next in, and I finally get a hand, 73s and call.

Flop Q73 two spades and I immediately fup by checking. TAG bets, dealer calls again, and I finally act by raising. All call. Turn is 8 of no spade, I bet, TAG folds, dealer calls.

River Q not spade. Bet/Fold?

Will he call a bet with A high? Seems unlikely so you're better off check/calling hoping he bluffs a whiffed flush draw.

Nah man, he is supposed to have you beat here -- i don't understand betting for value....

Can't fold though with Spades not getting there.

The worst thing that could happen is you betting, the dealer looking at the situation with Spades and trying to make a play by raising, and you fold.

Check/Call seems pretty obvious.

I'd c/f. I dont think you're getting bluffed here ever.

c/f, but fold preflop I think. In that spot, I would need another caller or two to call with any two suited, and 73s is pretty much the bottom of "any two suited." 75s is a call, though, so obviously it's close.

I am probably in the minority here, but doesn't our hand look like a Q? So is bet/fold really that bad since he's not raising us light and is bluffing almost never and a flush draw is far from unlikely and checking invites AJss to bluff at us and no one wants to check call. Or am I just crazy?

If the flop Q was not a spade that puts AQss squarely in his range but he is playing that hand really badly, no? So that's unlikely. Are we afraid of 88 or 99 here? Neither of those hands raises the river but might fold, right?

Help me out here.

every hand that beats us calls 100% of the time they make it to the river and the top card pairs with a flush draw on board, 88 and 99 beat us to the pot - we are not bluffing ever with our hand

i would c/f against most tags, but i c/c a few times in this spot until i know a bit more about his river bluff/value betting ranges

so, i guess that means i would c/c in this spot until we get some history to show he is betting 88+ and not flush draws or vise versa

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88, raises the turn so I think you can discount that, 99+ should have 3-bet preflop. What is the dealer's preflop cold-calling range? Was the Q a spade? KsQs is a likely cold-calling hand for some, but if the dealer had top-pair plus the flush draw, I would expect that hand to put in more action on the flop and turn. If the dealer has a hand like AsTs, then it really comes down to whether the deal will call a river bet with ace high (unlikely after your flop check/raise, plus turn bet), putting you on missed spades, or take a stab at it on the river if you check. Time to check and then soul read the dealer. It's pretty close to a check/fold, though, with the occasional check-call to keep the dealer honest.

Betting is bad on the river, however, you are only going to get called by hands that beat yours 90% of the time, and the other times you're going to get a fold, or worse someone bluff raising you on the river and you can't call, without some super human read that he's FOS. I don't see any better hands folding on the river that you can get to fold for one bet.

Cat--

C/R is correct on the flop. You say you "got it wrong" but I think you're blinded by results.

The river looks like a check-fold, but depending on who Villain is, betting as a bluff is to be considered. Of course, the reason you should consider it is that you would never do it, so there's a bit of a practical contradiction here...

All my best,

--Nate

I totally thought the turn was a ten, I think I am a little bit ******ed.

EDIT: Oh, yeah, fold preflop.

Fold pre flop. I like the flop c/r,. if you try to b/3 you lose (ug, I almost wrote loose and would have to endure PJ's scorn) the dealer. I hate these river spots but usually c/f.

EDIT: I hate calling pf... if you waited that long... wait alittle longer.

I would check-call river. I expect a ton of better hands to check behind since I don't think that tight-straightforward players bet thin for value with stuff like A7... However, we will induce a bluff sometimes IMO since spades missed.