Uh,,,, i dont think its ever correct to call the turn with a 2. what hand of OPs do we beat that he limps UTG, and then raises on the flop with 2 players behind? We shouldnt beat anything. Were at the bottom of our range on the flop, and we should fold.
If were gonna give villain enough credit to fold the river, lets give him enough credit not to make it to the river
Fair enough. Like I said though the possibility that he probably doesn't always call with it is just one more thing to consider - it's not the overriding factor since he doesn't always have 2x.
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Come on, guy. Of course we're calling or doing SOMETHING on a 235 flop. If you want to ask something VAGUELY interesting, ask about a 236 flop. JJ2 can also depend. A positional check/rz could be good. Dumping when it goes bet, call, call is nice. But it all depends on pot odds and reads, obv. You should have a propensity to fold when you limp hands like this, but of course there can be situations where a call is in order.
*I mean jebus. Fit or fold means that we've Yahtzee'd when the flop is 235.
Yah, QT7 or KJ4 flops (which make it easy to play fit or fold) and the like are a lot more common than JJ2 or 235 which don't make it so easy. The suited connectors like 87 are the "implied odds" hands that are harder to play fit or fold oop since you frequently flop bottom or middle pair and/or a gutshot or something.
