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02-26-2009 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
You haven't even begun to know running bad. Just when you start to think "i can't run any worse than this" you'll begin a stretch that puts your wildest nightmares to shame. Just wait... it gets much, much, much, much worse.
Gee, I hope not.

I'm going to put in a hand from tonight bec. it was against a tricky, confident lurker on here who is a real nice guy that did me a favor that took a bit of doing so that he can savor it a bit:

He opens LP, his range is very wide. To cut str8 to the end I called the BB w/ 44. Flop AA4. I was drawing dead and lost almost the maximum.

But he was cool, didn't say anything so it was up to the OTHER good playing lurker to say something like 'How often do you manage to flop a full house and be drawing dead?, lol'. Bastard.
02-26-2009 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
You haven't even begun to know running bad. Just when you start to think "i can't run any worse than this" you'll begin a stretch that puts your wildest nightmares to shame. Just wait... it gets much, much, much, much worse.
I think ive had a run as bad as you described in the last 3 months (up until a week ago). I was -400 BB at the worse point, but then again I played in games where I wasnt +EV (like the Commerce 40/80 2 months ago, or gasp! the Commerce 60/120 where I was a huge TAGfish).

At least im now up at 30/60 over the last 275 hours or so, but only earning $6/hr in the game lol. Hopefully my earn rate begins to improve and my small 130 BB heater continues. To be fair this doesnt count the period before Dec 2008 where I luckboxed my way into a $50/hr earn rate over a very small sample size in my early days at 30/60.

At least its better than 40/80, where im probably -$5000-ish overall in about 500 hours lifetime. And 60/120 where im -$16000 in 50 hours lifetime.

Last edited by spino1i; 02-26-2009 at 03:17 AM.
02-26-2009 , 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by spino1i
or gasp! the Commerce 60/120 where I was a huge TAGfish)
When you joined my tight average must move commerce 20 game after getting your a** handed to you in the 60 you had the look of a beaten down & seriously tilting shell of a man. I'm sure you don't need to hear it, but I can't imagine staying in a game that was causing me so much pain. Granted I had a similar experience trying to move from 25/50 to 40/80 so who am I to judge.

Anyway, I'm really glad to hear you are turning the corner. Just wait until this summer when the economy starts to turn around. Some of the ok players will have gone bust and new fish will start filtering in.
02-26-2009 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lolmitHE
30 onilne.

and pj, lol. please. i'm not going to make grandiose claims about me being the king or prince of running bad so i can validate how sorry i feel for myself, but i assure you, i know what running bad is. i've seen it in every variant.
I, on the other hand, am running great, and as far as you guys know, I always will be.
02-26-2009 , 05:10 AM
jesse you were the white fella in seat 2 with a mountain of chips right? i got into the game as a result of you leaving. the guy in seat 1 who i call robert paulson on account of he looks like robert paulson from fight club is awesome. i greatly enjoyed having him cap every hand essentially dark with the midget getting it in there for 4 bets every hand with essentially a random hand. then everyone else is playing terrible on account of those 2 juicing up every pot. i ran worse than humanly possible, getting stuck 2500 in my first 30 seconds in the game and ended up winning 2200 only (sick sick beat imo). it was harder to win mountains of chips later due to robert paulson busting an hour or so after i got in and ppl not wanting to put 09823759823753 bets in pf with any 2 every time. luckily i got like 4 or 5 ppl to play overs so i procured a few additional dollars that way

hopefully DD is doing better playing 4/8 badeuci at commerce right now, judging from how ive seen ppl play that game id be immensely disappointed if he didnt iwn 100k
02-26-2009 , 06:30 AM
when you play overs at oceans is it 80? i'll be in la pac-10 tournament week and might look for alternatives if commerce has a post lapc drop in game quality.
02-26-2009 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lolmitHE

and pj, lol. please. i'm not going to make grandiose claims about me being the king or prince of running bad so i can validate how sorry i feel for myself, but i assure you, i know what running bad is. i've seen it in every variant.
I'll take your word for it, it's just that you juxtaposed a hand in which a) you made a full house, and b) you won, with a complaint about running bad. If you had KK and flopped KQQ, then turn A river A and lost to A3o, then I could take the comment seriously. But if you were sort of just stating two different things (i.e., I am running so bad, and also by the way here is this hand where holy crap how come I didn't make more money) then obv I have no issue.

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Originally Posted by reachforthesky

hopefully DD is doing better playing 4/8 badeuci at commerce right now, judging from how ive seen ppl play that game id be immensely disappointed if he didnt iwn 100k
He is demolishing this game. Chino Rheem is the huge fish, playing pretty much every single hand and blowing off large sums of white chips.
02-26-2009 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by private joker
I'll take your word for it, it's just that you juxtaposed a hand in which a) you made a full house, and b) you won, with a complaint about running bad. If you had KK and flopped KQQ, then turn A river A and lost to A3o, then I could take the comment seriously. But if you were sort of just stating two different things (i.e., I am running so bad, and also by the way here is this hand where holy crap how come I didn't make more money) then obv I have no issue.
losing to running aces is incredibly standard online. having boat on boat and not getting 7 bets in is not. running bad comes in so many different forms that pigeon holing it to just bad beats is pretty ridiculous. makes me wonder if YOU know what running bad really is. the array of different ways that running bad can come at you is what makes it such a disgusting enigma. yes, there are days when you'll have a lot of strong hands gets run down. there are also days when you won't be dealt anything and the few hands you are dealt you whiff and check/fold turns and unspectacularly lose 19 bets. there are times when every time you peel bottom pair getting 14.5:1 closing the action you'll turn the backdoor possibility. during these times, the turn is never one bet. i don't think i have to tell you if you get there. there are weeks at a time when you'll be up against the nuts every single time. your opponent will have done nothing wrong, but you have a hand that you have to showdown. there are days when you're up against 6 of the donkiest donks that ever donked and they juice every single pot they're in. then you flop 4 sets in 90 minutes on coordinated boards and they all check fold for one bet. there are days when a dealer error will cause a 3 minute delay, not a big deal, but it causes the guy waiting for his bb to leave to hang around and superfish goes to table 2 instead when his name comes up.

bad beats is running bad. running bad is not bad beats.

that rant was probably unnecessary. but the idea of someone who doesn't know me telling me i lack perspective on the scope of running bad was hilarious to me.
02-26-2009 , 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lolmitHE

that rant was probably unnecessary. but the idea of someone who doesn't know me telling me i lack perspective on the scope of running bad was hilarious to me.
Yikes, relax dude. You must be running bad. Didn't sound like it was hilarious to you, though. Sounds like you're really sensitive about the subject.

Like I said, I'll take your word for it and I believe you know running bad. You don't have to keep belaboring the point. I can commiserate with you (though apparently you don't want that) and running bad obviously comes in many ways and sucks. But don't take the whines and needles in this forum so seriously; we're all mostly joking around. Toughen up, tiger, it'll get better soon!
02-26-2009 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by reachforthesky
the guy in seat 1 who i call robert paulson on account of he looks like robert paulson from fight club is awesome.
So he looks like Meatloaf with boobs?
02-26-2009 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by reachforthesky
jesse you were the white fella in seat 2 with a mountain of chips right? i got into the game as a result of you leaving. the guy in seat 1 who i call robert paulson on account of he looks like robert paulson from fight club is awesome. i greatly enjoyed having him cap every hand essentially dark with the midget getting it in there for 4 bets every hand with essentially a random hand. then everyone else is playing terrible on account of those 2 juicing up every pot. i ran worse than humanly possible, getting stuck 2500 in my first 30 seconds in the game and ended up winning 2200 only (sick sick beat imo). it was harder to win mountains of chips later due to robert paulson busting an hour or so after i got in and ppl not wanting to put 09823759823753 bets in pf with any 2 every time. luckily i got like 4 or 5 ppl to play overs so i procured a few additional dollars that way

hopefully DD is doing better playing 4/8 badeuci at commerce right now, judging from how ive seen ppl play that game id be immensely disappointed if he didnt iwn 100k
Yes, that was me. Your buddy Robert was unlike anything I have ever seen. There was one guy at the table who was not ******ed (Asian man in 8). The dwarf guy was hilarious. He did this:

I call paulsons sb raise with K9o from the bb. 5 way.

J86cc

Dwarf bets (paulson checked cause he has a 6 high straight draw) and I call one bet closing the action. I think I had Kc.

Ks

I check, utg check, dwarf bets....I raise. Utg calls 2 cold. Dwarf calls.

3c

I check, utg fires....dwarf folds KJ faceup. I call. QTo no good sir.
02-26-2009 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FondueBar
So he looks like Meatloaf with boobs?
yes. He helped me win 4 racks in 2 hours. His name is Robert paulson.
02-26-2009 , 12:49 PM
I run bad; I still don't have internet in my apartment. it's been 4 months. I had a conference call with my landlord and Verizon about it for an hour and a half on Tuesday.

Stories I've heard:
a) They're preparing for Fios and won't offer new service.
b) My landlord never successfully cancelled her account, only suspended it. therefore I am denied service.
c) The central office is full and can't process any more dsl connections (most LOL worthy)
d) I'm SOL.

That's running bad.
02-26-2009 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jesse8888
Yes, that was me. Your buddy Robert was unlike anything I have ever seen. There was one guy at the table who was not ******ed (Asian man in 8). The dwarf guy was hilarious. He did this:
The "dwarf" was likely Sunny. He's a nice guy, he was asian correct? The other Asian man in Seat 8 was likely David. As for this Robert Paulson guy, damn you Sean for getting me sick. I've been layed up in bed since Tuesday night after I got home from playing pokers, basically dieing.

Ok, I admit, it might not have been you who got me sick. Likely it was the lady I was sitting next to on Sunday, who was hacking, wheezing, sniffling, eating throat lozenges, and smelling of Vick's vapor rub. Please people, when you are sick, stay away from the poker table, don't be that big of a degenerate.

Who's this Robert Paulson dude, have I played with him before? And who the hell is Robert Paulson in real life? Sounds like a name I should know, but for some reason I don't recall anything.
02-26-2009 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WackyPoker

Ok, I admit, it might not have been you who got me sick. Likely it was the lady I was sitting next to on Sunday, who was hacking, wheezing, sniffling, eating throat lozenges, and smelling of Vick's vapor rub. Please people, when you are sick, stay away from the poker table, don't be that big of a degenerate.
i had to stop using that stuff, b/c i always forget to wash my heads totally clean before rubbing/touchng my eyes and sending myself into a temporary moment of blindness. happened 10+ times, i never learn so i had to stop using (besides the fact that it rarely helps anyhow).

live poker would be last thing i want to partake in when dying of a sickness, lol
02-26-2009 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WackyPoker
Who's this Robert Paulson dude, have I played with him before? And who the hell is Robert Paulson in real life? Sounds like a name I should know, but for some reason I don't recall anything.
Sir, the first rule of Project Mayhem is you do not ask questions.
02-26-2009 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lolmitHE
when you play overs at oceans is it 80? i'll be in la pac-10 tournament week and might look for alternatives if commerce has a post lapc drop in game quality.
Overs buttons are allowed in the 20/40 and 40/80 games. Depending on the lineup will determine if any overs are being played.

Technically overs are also allowed in the 75/150, but the 75 hasn't been spread in a long time, and I only remember once where it got spread and people were playing overs.
02-26-2009 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FondueBar
Sir, the first rule of Project Mayhem is you do not ask questions.
In death members of Project Mayhem have a name. His name is Robert Paulson.

James: No it wasn't Sonny, it was a dwarf with plentiful amounts of lucky charms bestowed upon him to give to all the children in the casino. Robert Paulson is Pult or Polt or however you spell it. Doubt I got you sick, I was pretty sick Friday but by the time we played on Sunday I was basically ok I just happened to have taken a buncha Tylenol to go to sleep/still a little sick when Kim made me come up to Oceanside to sit in the casino for 5000 hours so I was in a sluggish and sick mood. Or maybe I got you sick, oh well, you'll thank me later. Whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger, right?

sorry i used capital letters and punctuation and **** for the first part of this post, realized my mistake once id done it and too lazy to undo it

im now tempted to call commerce and see if 4/8 badeuci is still going and just take a 20k shot of my own money if chino is still BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLDOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZZZIIIIIINNNNNNN NNNNGGGGGGG his chips. the funny thing about chino is i thought he was the worst player ever online then he seemed to actually be one of the better/best players in the 15 to 50 horse games but now and then hed be horrendous so he can be good if he wants to be. or 2 ppl just played the acct and one of them sucks and one of them doesnt.

lolmithe: overs makes the game double when it becomes overs so 40 in the 20 and 80 in the 40. ppl tell me you can play overs in 8 if theres not a 20 going but theyve never let me do it plus who gives a **** its 8/16 half the fun is playing like a radioactive chimp

Last edited by reachforthesky; 02-26-2009 at 02:04 PM.
02-26-2009 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jkamowitz
I run bad; I still don't have internet in my apartment. it's been 4 months. I had a conference call with my landlord and Verizon about it for an hour and a half on Tuesday.

Stories I've heard:
a) They're preparing for Fios and won't offer new service.
b) My landlord never successfully cancelled her account, only suspended it. therefore I am denied service.
c) The central office is full and can't process any more dsl connections (most LOL worthy)
d) I'm SOL.

That's running bad.
Up your Netflix plan, finish The Wire(all 5 seasons are worth watching) & Mad Men, then add Six Feet Under to your list if you haven't seen it yet.
02-26-2009 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by private joker
Chino Rheem is the huge fish, playing pretty much every single hand and blowing off large sums of white chips.
Chino saw fit to 3bet my MP open from the SB with J6 yesterday in the $100/$200 game. I suspect he is simply awful at all forms of limit poker.
02-26-2009 , 03:19 PM
the thing that amazed me most about chino was that despite his raging chat tilt against me playing huhu 30 horse he actually quit me as soon as he lost back the 30 bets he was winning against me
02-26-2009 , 05:04 PM
what, did you think he just wouldn't be able to quit you?
02-26-2009 , 05:07 PM
well since i thought he was a raving lunatic fish at the time (didnt know it was chino but this was before wsop so i didnt know or care who he was then anyway) it astonished me that once he got stuck he would actually quit me since i had basically anticipated winning roughly the sum of $account from him.
02-26-2009 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WackyPoker
Who's this Robert Paulson dude, have I played with him before? And who the hell is Robert Paulson in real life? Sounds like a name I should know, but for some reason I don't recall anything.
i didnt recall it at first either but once fonduebar said meatloaf with boobs, it clicked. its from a movie, now its up to you to figure it out, hehe.
02-26-2009 , 06:21 PM
damn old geezers, get thicker glasses, i already said he looksl ike robert paulson form fightclub

also im watching that "poker bustouts" documentary on pokertube. so awesome. i wonder what percent of live "pros" have positive net worth. or even more impressive, a net worth of >10k. just remember "theres no bad beats. only bad dealers"

      
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