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04-09-2012 , 03:56 PM
How do you guys construct your blind vs blind strategies? Assuming a mid-stakes, full handed live game. Ive adopted the always limp from the SB and never raise from BB strategies and so far I think I have decent results. I dont think people have adjusted to it and the same guys still open and c-bet me 100% from the SB. These same guys ALWAYS raise when I limp in the SB too.

What approach do you guys take? Have you noticed people adjustiing to it?
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04-09-2012 , 06:10 PM
It's quite simple: chop. At 40 and higher it starts to make sense to play.

If you must play, then limping the sb is probably leaving money on the table against bad live players. IMO, as far as simplistic strats, the opposite hu approach is better live because people fold too much.
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04-10-2012 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chasqui
It's quite simple: chop. At 40 and higher it starts to make sense to play.

If you must play, then limping the sb is probably leaving money on the table against bad live players. IMO, as far as simplistic strats, the opposite hu approach is better live because people fold too much.

What makes you feel that way? re: chopping when playing under 40-80.

Wouldn't you want to have more opportunities to play against bad live players?
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04-10-2012 , 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by prototypepariah
What makes you feel that way? re: chopping when playing under 40-80.

Wouldn't you want to have more opportunities to play against bad live players?
In a full game, after you play 100 hands in BvB, $600 go down the drop. At 15/30, this is 20BB. So unless your HU advange is over 20BB/100 hands you have a steep hill to climb.

Having an opening range will help, but not that much
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04-10-2012 , 09:35 PM
Ahhhhhhh west coast bias!!! Back east were on on time..2-3-4 handed is. Half or free. Its a beautiful thing.!
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04-10-2012 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by prototypepariah
Ahhhhhhh west coast bias!!! Back east were on on time..2-3-4 handed is. Half or free. Its a beautiful thing.!
There's another coast?. I guess you live and you learn
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04-11-2012 , 09:50 AM
If you are going to play BvB in a raked game (and FW is a great place to do it because the rake caps out at $4 and only $2 automatically goes on the flop), then limping the SB as a strategy would maximize the rake as a % of winnings.

I don't mind limping some SB hands that I am OK playing OOP for 2 bets. But in general it is so much better to get an extra $20 in pre-flop if you are going to win the hand. And its even better when the BB folds and there is no rake at all.

Similarly in the BB after a SB limp. Why wouldn't you raise hands that would seem to have an edge? You will be perceived as having a wide range anyway. And you get to play in position against presumably inferior hands for more money...

Not sure people adjust because these situation come up so infrequently when I play. But during the weekdays at FW they are sure to come up a lot - and there I would vary my play somewhat.
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04-11-2012 , 11:52 AM
if the guy is good limp, if he sucks raise, chopping is silly

at foxwoods prolly have to worry about 5 players maybe, but limping vs the daytime nits and foldy post flop players is bad
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04-11-2012 , 12:41 PM
Chopping is silly if and only if the game is a time game.

I don't care how good you think you are; playing blind-vs-blind in a raked game is lighting money on fire.
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04-11-2012 , 12:58 PM
I always limp my small blind in blind battles; but I will raise my big blind liberally if the SB limps, because most LOLive players will be limping their small blind with the weaker part of their rainge.

That said, I play so that the hand doesn't really begin until the turn. I will fold some hands to the villain's flop bet, and I will c-bet the flop myself if I have the initiative, but I am waiting until the turn to start playing poker.
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04-11-2012 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Chopping is silly if and only if the game is a time game.

I don't care how good you think you are; playing blind-vs-blind in a raked game is lighting money on fire.
Do you care how good I think he is?

I would say that it would be silly for BK to chop in the FW 20/40 game. But I would appreciate it if he would take your advice and also stop changing seats to my left.
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04-11-2012 , 04:08 PM
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Do you care how good I think he is?

I would say that it would be silly for BK to chop in the FW 20/40 game. But I would appreciate it if he would take your advice and also stop changing seats to my left.
sorry for moving lol, just wanted to hear nicky moan when i raised his blind everytime

dont chop in your poker career and u wont hear, i chop 5 handed, i chop 6 handed or less, i chop only if player on left doesnt, im not chopping this hand its too good

dont chop and you will have some fish say " you dont chop? I raise" and spew his balls off 1/2 of the time

chopping is silly unless its a time pot at commerce
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04-12-2012 , 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
I always limp my small blind in blind battles; but I will raise my big blind liberally if the SB limps, because most LOLive players will be limping their small blind with the weaker part of their rainge.

That said, I play so that the hand doesn't really begin until the turn. I will fold some hands to the villain's flop bet, and I will c-bet the flop myself if I have the initiative, but I am waiting until the turn to start playing poker.
Is this an adjustment to how your opponents play or is this how you believe that HU poker should be played from this position?
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