3-handed high stakes LHE game.

I raise K2 in SB, balanced, winning 2+2er calls in BB.

Flop: QT9
I check, villain checks.

Turn: K
I check, intending to...?

Bet flop? I'm about 40% equity vs. a 90+% defend range.

I’d typically bet the flop here. I’d check/call the turn. He should be betting most pairs and the jack in the flop so you aren’t behind much

As played id c/c turn. Don't see much of a point to betting.

I think you've a significant RvR edge on the flop, so I wouldn't be doing much checking at all. What else are you checking on this board?

He's not 3 betting preflop?

What's the structure? 1/2 or 2/3?

Would bet flop. Prolly kr turn as played.

What do you call significant? I don't think significant RvR edges exist on flop, esp vs good players, esp in wide range situations.

Bet seems standard to me. When V checks back flop, his range is usually decapitated. So, we should be betting a lot here, since we are less decapitated. K is high in our range.

Wow all over the map here. Pre I think is close. Flop I would check. Turn I would bet.

Hmm. On second look I like betting flop. We can check back a lot of other K8- combos. k2 should prefer to bet, mostly for thin protection. It sucks when they free card and hit 4 or 5 on us. With K7, eg, it sucks less since we have that extra over card redraw. K2 and k7 have almost the same equity, so between the two it makes sense to bet the K2 and check the K7.

pf i'd def raise all day vs. normal players, but a solid winning one i dont' mind tightening up my open range a bit.

flop given the raise seems like a pretty standard bet. easy fold if raised, and i don't know how many hands i have in the raise/check category, but it's not many (i guess i have to work on that)

for the turn i like a check. there's wayyyy more hands that'll bluff when check to than lose to the nut low k when calling a bet.

Haven't played 3 handed BvB in awhile but is the strategy to call 100% of hands played in SB here applicable BvB?

Was emphasised quite strongly by old 2+2 reg who to my knowledge was a crusher online & live and still plays in West coast so may be we can get his insight if he still lurks.

I typically used to raise PF every time here even vs strong pro LAGTAG.

Flop and turn, depends too much on meta between you and BB/pro but if I check flop, I'm not folding most run outs.

As played on turn, meta makes a huge difference but bet/call > chk/call > chk/raise for how I usually play.

Chk/raise seems interesting if we have dynamic meta/play history in this 3 handed session BvB.

I think the flop check is fine, but I fold pre probably and bet turn for sure. I think checking turn is good vs many opponents but not vs the one described.

Preflop this is at the bottom of my range so I usually play it. I would be tempted to fold it against better players but probably wouldn't because I wouldn't really know where to draw thw line.

Flop check is good and I think this is the perfect board for it.

I would bet the turn on the assumption that Villain doesn't defend all Jx and would have bet most of the ones he does.

Meaning he may be checking the flop back with hands with showdown value (i.e. small pairs, some T's and 9's)?

I think that checking back a lot of pretty decent hands is pretty good vs most flop checks on this texture, although it really depends a lot on what he thinks of you. Most people who chk this flop are pretty unlikely to get to showdown. I'd also check back a jack occasionally. I dunno his preflop strategy which is probably pretty relevant as well.

You think a balanced winning 2p2er doesn't defend all jacks in the bb to a sb raise? Really?

Approaching 60% is when I'll just cbet my entire range w/out a good reason not to. Given that BB is prob 3 betting the top stuff in his range (as well as other stuff), I'd venture to say we'd be approaching 60% eq fairly often. Obviously this player is pretty good, according to Captain R, so we can't fully discount good starting hands, which will hurt our eq a bit.

I don't know what his 3! pf strategy is, but I strongly suspect he has strong hands in his call range. It's even possible he never 3-bets pre against me to keep his range as wide as possible.

I definitely think we should not be c-betting this flop 100% and should check-fold the worst of our hands here.

Yes, I think that.

I mean you should be folding maybe the bottom 5% of hands in the BB here. The worst jack is probably 80th% or so? You'd have to be playing pretty poorly to fold a jack pre here imo.

Checking this flop with K2 seems a bit weird to me, since we potentially have the best hand and can get a fold, or are behind to Ax/Tx/9x which won't fold and will bet if we check, yet we'd usually have ~7 outs. So you're just creating a bad situation where C/C seems pretty bad and C/F just can't possibly be right obv. I think maybe K2 and all lower unsuited X2's should just be discarded preflop in this situation.

What's K2o? About 60th, right? If you think they're defending 95%, shouldn't you snap raise K2o?

I agree J2o is about 80th. If there's a question about whether SB is opening K2o then there should be a question about whether we defend J2o.

Disagree. When you have position and are getting 3:1 you can play a much wider distribution than you can open, which is why I play pretty much 100% in this spot...


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Your argument is he will fold worse hands but never fold better hands. And that’s a reason to bet?!

i'm cbetting this flop. and check calling the turn.