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04-01-2019 , 02:12 PM
55 in the BB.

Player in early position limps, villain raises, folds to me and I call, limper calls. I think villain is a good hand-reader and he is now playing a pretty TAG game. He used to be a lot a looser and more creative and has reigned it in a lot. I have no doubt that he tries to make exploitative adjustments post-flop, but I think he will play pretty straightforwardly against me.

Flop J 9 5

I check, limper checks, villain bets, I raise, limper calls 2 cold, villain 3!, I 4!, limper folds, and villain calls (betting is not capped).

Turn K.

Is this a clear bet/3-bet?
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04-01-2019 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LifeRebooted
55 in the BB.

Player in early position limps, villain raises, folds to me and I call, limper calls. I think villain is a good hand-reader and he is now playing a pretty TAG game. He used to be a lot a looser and more creative and has reigned it in a lot. I have no doubt that he tries to make exploitative adjustments post-flop, but I think he will play pretty straightforwardly against me.

Flop J 9 5

I check, limper checks, villain bets, I raise, limper calls 2 cold, villain 3!, I 4!, limper folds, and villain calls (betting is not capped).

Turn K.

Is this a clear bet/3-bet?
id just call a turn raise

he has KK, JJ, 99, QT plenty of times

i dont see him raising many worse hands here, your line is already very strong in a multiway pot. he might not even raise two pair.
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04-01-2019 , 03:37 PM
I think even if you add AK, AA and the two pair combos it would be a thin 3 bet. If he has the nuts he is gonna 4 bet and you can't fold. I'd just call down.
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04-05-2019 , 01:34 PM
a lot of turns r bet/3! not this one imo.
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04-05-2019 , 07:52 PM
You have a set. Bet and bet some more.
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04-05-2019 , 09:53 PM
Against someone that you describe as a solid TAG who is a good hand reader, I think I am just calling down if he raises the turn.
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04-05-2019 , 10:19 PM
b3b no good
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04-06-2019 , 08:05 AM
Do you indicate what position TAG raiser is in. After a limper comes in it matters less than a first in raise, but it has some impact.
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04-06-2019 , 11:00 AM
Good to hear the consensus is not to 3!, as I bet/called the turn. River is the 8. Is the consensus here to check/call? Is there a good case to be made for betting with the intention of calling a raise?

P.S. Villain was in the hijack.
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04-07-2019 , 01:23 PM
I don’t really see how the 8 changes much. I’m just check calling in the hopes that he has KJ or is spazzing with AA
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04-08-2019 , 03:48 PM
Is bet/call the river no-flush 8 bad? You have a set and I think your opponent has enough two-pairs or pairs he'll call with.
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04-09-2019 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Smarty 2.0
You have a set. Bet and bet some more.
QT is 16 combos... KJ is only 9 combos and has outs... You don't want to pay 2 16 times and win one 9 times (minus hitting) if your opponent just optimistically raises a hand like KT then sure B/3B, but XR is better against a solid opponent.

Also, I don't like going to 4b on the flop because it is harder to hide information about your hand going to 4b... so on a flop like this no 4b range (imo) unless it gets multiway (at which point value is more important).

Last edited by leavesofliberty; 04-09-2019 at 05:29 AM.
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04-09-2019 , 11:29 AM
Argument for turn bet/call is your way ahead or way behind so head to showdown. The river does not change anything for the relevant ranges except hit T7 diamond semibluff. Get to showdown as cheaply as possible.
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04-09-2019 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty
QT is 16 combos... KJ is only 9 combos and has outs... You don't want to pay 2 16 times and win one 9 times (minus hitting) if your opponent just optimistically raises a hand like KT then sure B/3B, but XR is better against a solid opponent.

Also, I don't like going to 4b on the flop because it is harder to hide information about your hand going to 4b... so on a flop like this no 4b range (imo) unless it gets multiway (at which point value is more important).
It was multiway on flop when hero had choice to call or 4-bet.
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04-15-2019 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DrHoldemPhD
It was multiway on flop when hero had choice to call or 4-bet.
style choice... youll have to mix some qt if you want to reap 4b otf.
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