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08-25-2007 , 08:21 AM
some ******s limp and the only other decent player at the table raises, I 3bet AK blah blah blah. Flop A85 and he donks into the field/me, I raise, he 3 bets I 4 bet he calls. Turn 8 he donks again I raise he calls. River 8 he checks I bet he flashes 55 and mucks. Hooray for me!

I also played the dreaded 6/12 stud8 game for the first time in years. One of the old guys says hi to me, I look around the table and say "wow I haven't played this game in forever and its all the same guys" and he says "what, no one died yet?". Yeah. I did however get rolled up aces for the first time ever in a live game! So that was pretty cool.
08-25-2007 , 05:45 PM
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Who was the guy from Minnesota in 20 Commerce game!?
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Young guy, 20ish, red hat, big headphones, white guy, who had a friend playing 60. Looked like a total grinder heh, thats why i asked him if he was out of town.
08-25-2007 , 10:01 PM
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Who was the guy from Minnesota in 20 Commerce game!?
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Young guy, 20ish, red hat, big headphones, white guy, who had a friend playing 60. Looked like a total grinder heh, thats why i asked him if he was out of town.
Sounds like Lip-ring Dave. He posts here and I haven't seen him around lately. Glasses, tall and thin?
08-25-2007 , 10:12 PM
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I just did what goes against every poker bone in my body and quit a game when I was a solid winner. I absolutely hate doing it because I feel like it is the perfect time to just pound on the people that think you are somehow magically endowed with lucky powers because you are winning, but I don't think my bruised and battered psyche could suffer turning another solid win into a loss as I've been doing far too often. It honestly feels dirty to leave a game in which there is a blatantly horrible player on my direct right who still has cash equivalents in front of him, but I needed to win to make myself feel better.

I also hate doing it because I've been awake less than 6 hours and now have absolutely nothing to do at 2am.
honestly contact rory and hire him as a coach
08-25-2007 , 10:41 PM
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I just did what goes against every poker bone in my body and quit a game when I was a solid winner. I absolutely hate doing it because I feel like it is the perfect time to just pound on the people that think you are somehow magically endowed with lucky powers because you are winning, but I don't think my bruised and battered psyche could suffer turning another solid win into a loss as I've been doing far too often. It honestly feels dirty to leave a game in which there is a blatantly horrible player on my direct right who still has cash equivalents in front of him, but I needed to win to make myself feel better.

I also hate doing it because I've been awake less than 6 hours and now have absolutely nothing to do at 2am.
I did this tonight and I don't feel bad about it, bc like you I have had multiple sessions on this swing where I started out winning only to lose alot for the session. When this happens I tend to play worse (tilt) than if I just started losing in the beginning. Also, you need any confidence you can get and you might not play optimally pf trying to protect your win, but if you go back the next day and play another session you will be playing with the confidence of a locked up win.
08-25-2007 , 11:34 PM
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Who was the guy from Minnesota in 20 Commerce game!?
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Young guy, 20ish, red hat, big headphones, white guy, who had a friend playing 60. Looked like a total grinder heh, thats why i asked him if he was out of town.
Sounds like Lip-ring Dave. He posts here and I haven't seen him around lately. Glasses, tall and thin?
yea sounds about right... i dont remember if he had a lip ring or not though
08-25-2007 , 11:37 PM
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Who was the guy from Minnesota in 20 Commerce game!?
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Young guy, 20ish, red hat, big headphones, white guy, who had a friend playing 60. Looked like a total grinder heh, thats why i asked him if he was out of town.
Sounds like Lip-ring Dave. He posts here and I haven't seen him around lately. Glasses, tall and thin?
yea sounds about right... i dont remember if he had a lip ring or not though
Im not sure he even wears it anymore. Just a nickname since there are so many Dave's at C-bury.
08-26-2007 , 02:40 AM
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Who was the guy from Minnesota in 20 Commerce game!?
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Young guy, 20ish, red hat, big headphones, white guy, who had a friend playing 60. Looked like a total grinder heh, thats why i asked him if he was out of town.
Sounds like Lip-ring Dave. He posts here and I haven't seen him around lately. Glasses, tall and thin?
yea sounds about right... i dont remember if he had a lip ring or not though
Im not sure he even wears it anymore. Just a nickname since there are so many Dave's at C-bury.
yeah its me and i took the ol' lip ring out. So i dont know what you guys will call me now. Nice to meet ya for a second there sailboats, I thought you were a 2+2er right away but failed to ask. The commerce 20 game is AWESOME and I run so GOOOT. Up 10 racks in 4 days so far..... I dont see the pure aggression everyone is talking about though, I was expecting a CP 8/16 style game, but everyone in the 20 game is clueless and loose passive. You californian 2+2ers have it so good out here, at least at the 20/40 games. Is the 40/80 any different? I want to take a stab.........
08-26-2007 , 02:52 AM
Yea well i think people exaggerate it sometimes, but other times it is as crazy as people say. It really varies from table to table. Oh and usually the 40 is pretty good, the big difference from 20 to 40 is they tend to be more aggressive. And ya you do run fantastic heh... calling 3 bets on the turn to hit a one-outer with your AA. I on the other hand was not running as good, but managed to win a little bit heh. Nice meeting you, i kinda figured you were 2+2 by your play and also when you said how you heard about such good action at The Commerce.
08-26-2007 , 02:52 AM
Awesome Dave. Good place to be running good. Take a 1 rack shot at the 40. Its more agg than the 20, but you will be an easy favorite.
08-26-2007 , 03:13 AM
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Yea well i think people exaggerate it sometimes, but other times it is as crazy as people say. It really varies from table to table. Oh and usually the 40 is pretty good, the big difference from 20 to 40 is they tend to be more aggressive. And ya you do run fantastic heh... calling 3 bets on the turn to hit a one-outer with your AA. I on the other hand was not running as good, but managed to win a little bit heh. Nice meeting you, i kinda figured you were 2+2 by your play and also when you said how you heard about such good action at The Commerce.
Hey you know i had 7 outs and I only called one more bet, but i am lucky. When the ace hit the river i almost jumped out of my chair. I was also happy i didnt have to look like an idiot and make a monsterously stupid crying call getting 236 to 1. I woulda been curious what he had anyway. I was 1000% sure he had me beat when he says, "you got aces again huh?.......i raise". Classic.
08-26-2007 , 07:09 PM
Commerce has been overrun this weekend by goot-playing Minnesotans.

I sat next to a young guy from MN wearing a white A&F cap and black/charcoal A&F jacket. I was sure he was a 2+2er but never got around to asking his name. He was to my left in a 20 game. I was raising and iso-3-towning a lot and he didn't get to play many hands but played well when he did.

BTW does anybody know the guy who likes to wear Tommy Bahama shirts? Big white middle-aged guy who wears dark glasses and slick-backed hair.
08-26-2007 , 09:35 PM
Finally, a glorious hand to post. AT a fishy 30 regular puts straddle on, 2 cc'ers, Laggy fish 3 bets, I 4-bet red AQ, Chiu a another fishy regular calls, straddle caps all call.

Flop: AQ7r

checked to me I bet all call.

turn: 8 completed rainbow

I bet all call.

river: Q

I bet and get 2 callers and scoop biggest pot in 4 months. Actually pretty sad.
08-27-2007 , 02:05 AM
local 20/40 game.

guy that capped preflop is somewhat of a maniac and the guy that 3-bet preflop is generally a little too loose passive and so his range preflop is pretty constrained to like 99-AA, AK/AQ here.

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I limp with 33 UTG1, maniac raises after a couple of folds, dude 3-bets, both blinds call, I call, maniac caps, everybody calls,

Flop is 993r
check, check, I check, maniac bets, dude calls, 1 blind calls, I decide to c/r the field on the turn and call

turn is a 2
I c/r the field of 4 after the maniac bets again. The maniac now calls, and dude comes to life and 3-bets. I decide calling down is my best option.

River is an A
I check, maniac checks, dude bets, I call, maniac c/r, dude 3-bets and I fold.

Dude shows 99 and maniac probably just rivered an ace to go with his AK.

blah, first cooler session I've had in a while.

Month goal not going well: +5k and probably only going to get two more sessions in.
08-27-2007 , 01:28 PM
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Finally, a glorious hand to post. AT a fishy 30 regular puts straddle on, 2 cc'ers, Laggy fish 3 bets, I 4-bet red AQ, Chui a another fishy regular calls, straddle caps all call.


Flop: AQ7r

checked to me I bet all call.

turn: 8 completed rainbow

I bet all call.

river: Q

I bet and get 2 callers and scoop biggest pot in 4 months. Actually pretty sad.
Sweet. Especially since I am always totured by Chui. I am sure he had some kind of straight draw and paired the 8!
08-27-2007 , 05:28 PM
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Finally, a glorious hand to post. AT a fishy 30 regular puts straddle on, 2 cc'ers, Laggy fish 3 bets, I 4-bet red AQ, Chui a another fishy regular calls, straddle caps all call.


Flop: AQ7r

checked to me I bet all call.

turn: 8 completed rainbow

I bet all call.

river: Q

I bet and get 2 callers and scoop biggest pot in 4 months. Actually pretty sad.
Sweet. Especially since I am always totured by Chui. I am sure he had some kind of straight draw and paired the 8!
no wonder you're always tortured by him
08-27-2007 , 07:17 PM
Too silly to be it's own thread, but I still have a question ... so, hopefully, it will fit into low-content. If not, ignore.

15/30 local card room. I'm running hot. I'm up 2 1/2 racks and the table is getting flustered. Three players clearly on tilt. Table likely sees me as as somewhat solid, some weakish tendencies, and aggressive. I've got excellent position - loosies on my right, tighties on my left. I've been picking on Seat 2's BB quite a bit due to good cards, circumstance, and, well, he can lay a hand down (I'm in Seat 8 (9 handed)). I've taken down 3 fo the last 4 hands I was involved in.

Folds to me in the cutoff and I look down and see J,2s.
I open raise. You like? Hate?

Really curious if this is just way to far out of the realm of good poker?

So on to the low content portion ... SB folds (Seat 2), BB calls (Seat 3 - LAG who I've been butting heads with quite a bit, he's been bluffing like crazy and I've been taking him to value-town. Which is not a strength of mine, it's something I'm working on, and tonight it's working). Flop comes with a 2. Checked to me and I bet, Seat 3 C/R me. Flop has 2 connected and 2 suited cards. It's probable that Seat 3 only has some semblance of a draw here. I call. Turn is an Ace. Seat 3 bets, I raise, he calls. River is J completing the flush. He checks, I check (yes, I didn't take him to value town this time, my bad) and call out two pair. He flashes 7,6 for the missed gut shot and I table my two pair and MHIG! He goes ballistic. Make that 4 players on tilt, two courtesy of me!

Was this realy, really awful?

I'm curious
08-27-2007 , 07:45 PM
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Too silly to be it's own thread, but I still have a question ... so, hopefully, it will fit into low-content. If not, ignore.

15/30 local card room. I'm running hot. I'm up 2 1/2 racks and the table is getting flustered. Three players clearly on tilt. Table likely sees me as as somewhat solid, some weakish tendencies, and aggressive. I've got excellent position - loosies on my right, tighties on my left. I've been picking on Seat 2's BB quite a bit due to good cards, circumstance, and, well, he can lay a hand down (I'm in Seat 8 (9 handed)). I've taken down 3 fo the last 4 hands I was involved in.

Folds to me in the cutoff and I look down and see J,2s.
I open raise. You like? Hate?

Really curious if this is just way to far out of the realm of good poker?

So on to the low content portion ... SB folds (Seat 2), BB calls (Seat 3 - LAG who I've been butting heads with quite a bit, he's been bluffing like crazy and I've been taking him to value-town. Which is not a strength of mine, it's something I'm working on, and tonight it's working). Flop comes with a 2. Checked to me and I bet, Seat 3 C/R me. Flop has 2 connected and 2 suited cards. It's probable that Seat 3 only has some semblance of a draw here. I call. Turn is an Ace. Seat 3 bets, I raise, he calls. River is J completing the flush. He checks, I check (yes, I didn't take him to value town this time, my bad) and call out two pair. He flashes 7,6 for the missed gut shot and I table my two pair and MHIG! He goes ballistic. Make that 4 players on tilt, two courtesy of me!

Was this realy, really awful?

I'm curious
It is very spewy, and it is plays like this that killed me in my first attempt to move up to 20/40. I felt I had to be over aggressive, and would never fold a hand in the CO or button when folded around to me. I have since found how to fold, and I have successfully made the transition now to 20/40 full time. Slow down and fold, its not the worst thing in the world to see a pot chopped when you were on the button or cutoff.
08-27-2007 , 10:31 PM
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Was this realy, really awful?
No. It's -EV but it's not that bad and putting the table on tilt can pay big dividends. Also it can be good if you look left and see a couple people with no interest in their hands.
08-27-2007 , 10:57 PM
Given the game texture you describe I think your preflop play is fine. Your postflop play is a little spewy asking a guy you've been 'taking to valuetown' to fold but whatever.
08-28-2007 , 01:17 AM
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Who was the guy from Minnesota in 20 Commerce game!?
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Young guy, 20ish, red hat, big headphones, white guy, who had a friend playing 60. Looked like a total grinder heh, thats why i asked him if he was out of town.
dave runs sick good, commerce is the greatest place in the world IMO.

Two hands from my trip (i was the friend playing 60)

100-200 limited holdem.

Im in the sb with the 33, folded to button who decides to open limp.

i complete bb check, flop 3 9 J
i bet bb folds button calls
turn 9 i bet button calls.
river K i bet, button raises, i three bet, button CALLS.

button tables 8 7 .

100 200

Guy opens in the CO i three bet A 9 in the sb. BB folds CO folds, thank you for the dollars.
08-28-2007 , 01:18 AM
Another hand that felt great. 1 solid opener in lp, I 3-bet JJ otb both terrible blinds call.

Flop:J26r

both check, I bet both call.

turn:Qd putting up fd

check, bb bets, I raise, sb calls 2 and bb calls.

Rivar: Kx

check, bb donks again I hesitate and raise, muck call. I win.

Sb: AQ bb: KQ
08-28-2007 , 06:18 AM
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BTW does anybody know the guy who likes to wear Tommy Bahama shirts?
Wow, a guy wearing Tommy Bahama shirt at the Commerce! Was he Persian?

Couple or three limpers. I have T9s in CO. Think about raising but limp. Button, a guy wearing a Tommy Bahama shirt, raises. Four people call. I 3-bet. Button caps. 6-way. 24 small bets.

Flop KJ9r. It's checked around.

After hand, I ask the Tommy Bahama shirt guy what he had. He says "77. I was trying to knock people out."
08-28-2007 , 08:39 AM
commerce 20 game

one limper i raise 77 button and sb call, bb(super ******o) 3 bets all call

flop AA7r

i go 5 bets on the off suit 3 turn to put ******o all in

river 3 so board is AA733......... he mucks

I didnt run sick good on the last day of trip unless losing 1700 at 20 40 in 6 hours is good. First loss since 94.
08-28-2007 , 11:12 AM
For once some [censored] justice in poker. Was like 2.5 racks winner playing 40, got Crazy Mike to come and play, everyone starts drooling on themselves because when a fish shows up they need to play bad to fit in so of course I lose like 2.49 racks before he leaves. Then somehow I win it all back playing super short.

I've been informed that my hands are sometimes "random and crazy" so here is one that might fit into one of those categories. It also fits under the category that someone mentioned a while ago about me somehow getting a ton of bets in in absolutely logic defying spots and then having me have a winner.

Like 6 handed Texas Holdem Hi with no qualifier 40/80
Fold to me on the button and I raise K9 with one heart and one diamond, Mike L 3bets sb and fold to me I call

Flop 369 two hearts
He bets I call

Turn 6 putting two diamonds also
Mike bet/3bet, I 4bet, he calls

River 8 of hearts which is a real bad card for me and it goes check check and mhig

There was another one I wanted to post but I forgot it so maybe later.

I also lost a $100 bet to Crazy Mike. He had his chips stacked in such a way that it looked like there were 2 rows where there was only 1 row. He bet me $100 that he had less than a certain amount and from the angle I was sitting at I was roughly 200% sure that he had substantially more. I was not so happy when I realized the one row situation. Even with that oversight I just barely lost.

      
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