Live 20-40 1/2 kill pot (kill acts last)

UTG (unremarkable, but solid) posts kill. 4 limpers (all recs), I raise black AA from sb. BB (unknown and only 2 orbits in, but I've already seen him flat pre and initial impression is too loose and technically unsound), killer and limpers call.

Flop 6h 4h3h. I bet, BB raises, killer and three of the limpers flat, I call.

Turn 9c. I ck, BB bets, killer calls, one fold, next two call, I c/r, BB calls, killer calls, next calls, next folds.

River Js. I bet, BB calls, rest fold.

How did I do here? A buddy hates it, so I'd appreciate some opinions. Tbh, I have no idea how to interpret ranges and equity with so many cold callers. I know I'm a dog to win, but thought I might still have lion's share of equity after the turn sequence. Is this way too optimistic given # of opponents and outs I have to dodge,not to mention the chance BB (or others) already having me crushed?

like flop. turn too thin imo. better to donk the turn instead rather than c/r the field for value.

I think it's a very ambitious play, which is admirable. I think it's a disaster if it checks around though and that is the main problem I have. If the flop raise is in late position I like a check raise better to make weak heart draws have to call to bb's. Just curious, are you auto folding to a 3 bet?

I don't like the plan of check-raising the turn because
1. Sometimes the turn will check around which is a disaster
2. We are going to lose a lot with this plan the times we are behind, which are fairly often. The pot will be very bloated and it is going to be very uncomfortable to fold our hand to further aggression with the price we'll be getting, even though we would sometimes be drawing dead.
3. I don't think we gain a ton of value the times we are ahead. Our line is so strong I don't think a lot of hands we beat will call down both the turn and river.

I think I like the plan of calling the flop raise and donking safe turn cards the best. I think 3 betting the flop can also be considered but this also gets us into a bloated pot situation and our equity advantage against the field on the flop here is going to be pretty thin, while it's going to be significant on safe turn cards.

I think checking the flop is also an interesting line to consider. We will certainly be checking this flop with a decent portion of our range that misses, so I think it's good to occasionally check a stronger hand for balance. If we can check-raise a late position better and face the field with 2 bets, possibly folding out some low hearts or gutshot draws, that would be a huge win. Seeing how the field acts before we commit further bets to the pot also seems appealing.

It's so dumb that certain houses don't allow the "kill" to act in turn.

Allow or force?

OK...Force.

VNH. IMO

I like it, your friend probably knows you lost to 57 or two pair etc and hates it based on the results, but that was a big pot gotta try to win those. I'd be ok with bet folding the turn maybe

Because it's a big pot, people make irrational call downs. Only person who should have us beat is the flop raiser, and we get to collect turn calls from all the lottery tickets.

I like the way this hand was played. I don't think this turn gets checked through often. I don't mind if people call or fold in this big pot. I do agree this play may put us in some bad situations. I'm not sure if this is a good enough reason not to make this play.

I also don't hate the idea of checking this flop.

I would check the flop.

Is the plan here 'go to show down as cheap as possible'?

I actually thought the flop cbet was the more questionable play, but obv the turn c/r is also highly debatable.

Well played imo

I don't mind doing this either.

Are you hoping to check raise good turns, when our equity vs the field is better defined and better?

Just noticed your last question and it's a good one, bc the turn c/r runs risk of putting me in a meat grinder when BB 3 bets trying to decide if he'd do that with two pair or something like 7h,7x, Th,Tx, or even 5h,5x.

There's no way this can be an auto fold, but it's a ridiculously tough spot. While immediate odds are there to try and spike an ace (especially if others call), the others calling greatly increase the chance that someone is tying up the Ah and I'm down to 1 out. Then there are all the river cards that make me ill. I think all I can say for sure is that if I did call turn, I don't think I'd over call a heart or 4 straight on the river. But if left heads up on the river, any card would be a snap call expecting to almost always lose.

It depends. If the bet comes from late position I probably just xr the flop and hope for the best. If it comes from early position I probably end up calling and evaluating the turn.

No. The plan is hopefully to face the field with multiple bets either on the flop or turn if the action/board cooperate.

Sounds pretty good to me.

Check / Fold flop?

I check the flop here as well. For reasons OTR stated but also because so many turn and river cards really plunge our equity. It makes sense when we don't have a huge equity edge to pound to wait until our equity edge is larger and in general, I'm not worried about the flop or turn ever really getting checked around on boards like this.

Aha! I was like "maybe this should be a flop check" but then everyone was like you got to win this big pot and I was like, ok, maybe it's a flop bet, but then PokerBob says it's a flop check and he's a really good player so I'm like I KNEW IT!

Yup. But as played I love the hand.