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Originally Posted by Chasqui
What do you mean by that? If you want the pot to grow then you can always 3bet.
By that I meant that currently the pot is way too small to justify a 1BB investment by itself, no matter how you count the outs, but by the river it would grow so it's less clear. 3-betting would defeat the purpose of course, because now the investment is larger. In other words, all I was really referring to was the fact that we have good implied odds on 4 of our outs.
I won't claim that folding is incorrect here, but I do think the situation is less clear-cut than would appear from the responses so far. I think the answer really depends on the range that we assign the SB. In particular, if he almost never calls preflop with Ax, which is probably true for many players, then in addition to our 4 gutshot outs and weak bdfd, we would also have decent pair outs to a king (and pretty weak but still non zero to a ten), and even weak showdown value. In that case, it would be unreasonable to fold.
In reality, we should not be assigning such a lopsided range to SB, given the limited information we have, but it's still conceivable that on average a player with this description has an insufficient number of aces in his range to make folding here "not close".