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03-03-2010 , 02:20 AM
Really loose, moderately passive live 10/20 game. Hero has been “getting lucky” a lot by creating big pots with AK and then betting TPTK like it might be the best hand.

We're eight-handed here. From early MP, hero limps behind an EP limper with QJ. Raising might have folded out KJo, but no other hand that dominates me with this crew. Sound Effects Man, a bald and otherwise rough-and-tumble looking middle-aged man who has been, I swear, farting and making sports car transmission noises and beeping like the Road Runner all evening, limps. He's not good at poker. Straightforward, relatively tight button raises. Both blinds call, EP calls, I call, SFX back-raises. Button just calls, and it's called around to me. I can't recall that I've ever had a chance to back-raise a back-raiser before, and I cap because I think it will feel cool to do so. It does feel cool. Six to the flop. Meep meep!

Flop: (24 SB) 4 6 7

It's checked around to SFX, who bets. Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, EP calls, I'm getting 28-1, so of course I call.

Turn: (14.5 BB) Q

Checked to me, I donk, SFX mutters and calls like he might have what used to be an overpair. Button folds, SB calls, EP folds. I have a brief vision of winning this monster with the fierce high-card power of QJ.

River: (17.5 BB) 3

SB donks. Hero?

I'll save the river thought process for later, if there even is one. Is the preflop cap fun and marginally profitable, or just fun?
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03-04-2010 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslieweizen
Really loose, moderately passive live 10/20 game. Hero has been “getting lucky” a lot by creating big pots with AK and then betting TPTK like it might be the best hand.

We're eight-handed here. From early MP, hero limps behind an EP limper with QJ. Raising might have folded out KJo, but no other hand that dominates me with this crew. Sound Effects Man, a bald and otherwise rough-and-tumble looking middle-aged man who has been, I swear, farting and making sports car transmission noises and beeping like the Road Runner all evening, limps. He's not good at poker. Straightforward, relatively tight button raises. Both blinds call, EP calls, I call, SFX back-raises. Button just calls, and it's called around to me. I can't recall that I've ever had a chance to back-raise a back-raiser before, and I cap because I think it will feel cool to do so. It does feel cool. Six to the flop. Meep meep!

Flop: (24 SB) 4 6 7

It's checked around to SFX, who bets. Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, EP calls, I'm getting 28-1, so of course I call.

Turn: (14.5 BB) Q

Checked to me, I donk, SFX mutters and calls like he might have what used to be an overpair. Button folds, SB calls, EP folds. I have a brief vision of winning this monster with the fierce high-card power of QJ.

River: (17.5 BB) 3

SB donks. Hero?

I'll save the river thought process for later, if there even is one. Is the preflop cap fun and marginally profitable, or just fun?
Does QJs have more than 1/6th equity versus the ranges of the other 5 players in the hand? Will you be able to realize that equity? This is one of those questions that can be answered with pokerstove + your views of how the players will play postflop.

Don't raise the river, that's for sure. And I am pretty sure you can't fold getting 18.5:1.
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03-04-2010 , 10:33 AM
i would just raise pf the first time. backraising/backcapping seems fine.
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03-04-2010 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
i would just raise pf the first time. backraising/backcapping seems fine.
Yeah I think either is good depending on the exact table dynamics. I'm fine limping that beast assuming it gets you a 7 way pot.

But as played the backraise is awesome. He has like 98s and you have that crushed. Unless someone shows you QQ your raise is profitable.
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03-05-2010 , 01:28 AM
call and pray, those odds i could only fold like 2-8. i mean with those odds we cant just fold to those odds, eevveeerrr when we literally have some equity.
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03-06-2010 , 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar
i would just raise pf the first time. backraising/backcapping seems fine.
+1.
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