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11-20-2008 , 09:26 PM

GemiNiveK

banned

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 703

2nd Orbit. BTN is unknown to me. I feel the flop c-bet is standard, but lately at 15/30 it seems like my c-bets and semi-bluffs are all getting looked up and amounting to spew...

Full Tilt Poker $15/$30 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Pre Flop: (1.667 SB) Hero is MP with T

1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BTN calls, SB calls, 1 fold

Flop: (7 SB) K

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, BTN raises, SB folds, Hero calls

Turn: (5.5 BB) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (5.5 BB) 2

(2 players)
Hero ???

11-20-2008 , 09:30 PM

theKICK

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 39

since he checked the turn he's not very likely to have a K/J, so i guess its best to just c/c and pick some value of the missed draws. sometimes he has an underpair, but i dont know if he bets that too often when he checks the turn

11-20-2008 , 11:59 PM

deepsquat

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,171

Really super standard river c/c imo.

Flop bet is standard. I cant ever see checking this flop 3 handed... then we get into balancing etc etc

I assume you are asking if you have a thin river valuebet then?

I doubt anyone plays A9 or something like this and if hes prepared to call the riv with Qx, i think hed bet the turn with it, so no. Just check and hope dude desperation bets Q10 on the riv.

11-21-2008 , 01:09 AM

GemiNiveK

banned

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 703

OK, you answered both of my concerns, thanks. Flop bet standard, c/c river very standard. That's how I played it. Villain showed AJo.

11-21-2008 , 02:00 AM

Tryptamean

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9,844

villain is dumb ... hand standard from hero's perspective

11-21-2008 , 04:12 AM

JDalla

Total Boar

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15,542

yeah I hate this spot cause I feel like a lot of people dont even bother firing with the missed draws but will vbet their 99 crap, but then again anyone who plays like that generally sucks so rock on you have to c/c.

11-21-2008 , 05:00 PM

deepsquat

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,171

Villain is a moron and saved you $30 by not betting the turn

11-21-2008 , 08:27 PM

GemiNiveK

banned

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 703

Yep...moron villain.

If I were to reveal the identity of the villain, I would type a few letter "v"s and a few number "2"s, but I'm not gonna do that...

11-22-2008 , 11:32 AM

Oink

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,309

I have no idea who villain is but when people do this in my midstakes games its much much more likely they have marginal SD value than a draw.

I'd usually cf river. A block bet might be better tho.

11-28-2008 , 05:48 PM

#10

sabioaguila

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2

Maybe I'm just weak, but I'd have check-called the flop and folded if I failed to improve on the turn. You may have had him preflop* but he has you on the flop and it's imperative you shift gears or you will continue to get looked up for stacks and stacks at 15/30.

Additionally, this would give you respect for future c-bets when you actually hit something on the flop (bonus if you improve to two-pair on turn, etc).

*Lo and behold, he had you preflop, too. All the more reason to give my idea some consideration.

11-28-2008 , 06:53 PM

#11

Buffsta8

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 494

super standard flop bet check fold river if he bet turn i'd call him down

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