Villian in Vinnybstk. Some of you have probably played him at 10/20. He is basically a slightly overaggressive lag. He can get spazzy sometimes, but is also capable of playing pretty well imo.

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Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 9 K
4 folds, CO raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, CO calls

Flop: (3.5 BB) 6 4 T (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

Turn: (4.5 BB) A (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

River: (6.5 BB) 4 (2 players)

if he folds you had the best hand guaranteed

I don't like preflop against someone who plays decent postflop. If he's raising the top 35% from the CO then you only have 43% equity. If he's raising 42% from the CO then you only have 47% equity.

Even if his ASB is 50%, he's raising less from the CO, probably around 40%.

As played, river is easy fold.

Right on, I guess this hand is pretty boring then, and thin pf. Oh well.

Anyway, he insta-called turn if that means anything. Then I checked the river and he checked behind 55. It just got me wondering if he would fold this particular type of hand to a river bet. If I were in his spot, I'd certainly consider folding, and I will occasionally take turn lines like that, planning to fold if my opponent keeps betting. I suppose I would have needed the help of one or two more broadway cards to get him to fold mid pp's...

If villain were decent I think he would have raised or folded on flop, definitely not call, call. Therefore, it would be futile to keep firing.

If a Q or a J falls on river, then maybe he would fold, but I still don't think it is a good play. The chance that it helped him - or that he has A - is too great. You really can't put him on smallish PP here. Sure it's part of his range, but not a big enough part to justify trying to push him off it. The few times it works does not compensate for the many times it does not.

Tryptamean, I'm basing on this very limited knowledge of your game (mostly from your posts here), but I have a feeling you have the LAG image where 55 is going to call you down a lot on this board. I have a feeling that he's calling this river 90%+ of the time and putting you on missed broadways or air or whatever, basically just hoping.

It seems to me that in these forums the people who want to barrel off on a frequent basis are precisely those players whose image leads their opponents to make a lot of thin, almost hopeless, calldowns.

I don't mind barrelling off here in the right spot, but if you are regularly 3betting K9o in the SB versus an aggressive CO steal, then you're probably not getting a better hand to fold and this isn't the right spot.

Also, the reason poker is still profitable is that many players will call this river with 55 even though they only beat a bluff and you often know that they make these calldowns consistently, so playing it straightforward still leads to $$$. (FWIW, I don't know this villain specifically, but this is my general observation of medium stakes games.)

In all seriousness, I think the only way to get Vinny to fold this spot is to c/r

trypta has perfect image for 3-barrel (taggiest of tags). but it doesn't matter cuz villain doesn't fold pairs as far as I've seen.

If he doesn't fold the turn then he won't fold the river. I hate preflop because I don't think he ever folds his range to you unless you smash the flop. Vinny doesn't do the "i raise from LP with anything" thing much from what I've seen of him. I think in this spot it really is ok to give up on the river. The turn is the perfect test card for you and once he calls he isn't folding much except QJ.

vinny doesnt fold.

Trypta, I apologize for mischaracterizing you. I probably just assumed you were a LAG cause everyone here is one.

But barrelling only works if you have a good image and an opponent aware of that image. Sounds like it is the second criterion which fails here.

Turn insta-call -> unlikely to fold to a river bet, particularly on this river card. Obviously, you fire on a Q/J river.