villain is pretty spewy-tricky. He has a 60 Afq. His turn check leads me to believe he is either screwplaying or has total air. He 3bets the bb with all big Aces.

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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with 8 7
3 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) 8 8 A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks?

To me it means he actually made a bit of a draw or maybe even a Q, so I'd bet. How you play IPoker?!?

I was in the US Virgin Islands for while, and I have a buddy from New Zealand who raves about Ipoker. While I was there I loaded it up and the site didnt have the IP blocked so I got a transfer and gave it a go. He can move the money in and out via neteller.

Virgin Islands is a pretty awesome place to live if you play online poker btw, since there is no federal income tax.

i dont get why you even care since your turn decision is the same anyway? do i miss anything?

Well, I feel like he probably only screwplays with 8s here, so since I have no kicker thats one more small benefit to checking back the turn, not to mention that I can induce some river bluffs with the air portion of his range a portion of the time and some loose calls if he decided to spew with a small pair.

How are you gonna 3 bet his ace if you don't bet?

Again, I dont expect him to have an ace much. i dont know many people who screwplay a weak ace on a paired board. I pretty much never see that line, and as I said he 3bangs big aces out of the bb.

this part makes me worried that you may be planning to only call his river lead

I actually bet the turn, but and I have used this line, before, but in that instance villain checked the river so I didnt have to think about what to do. I figure that his range is weighted towards air, 8's and chopping kickers. My style calls for raising the turn alot, so if he has an ace there is no reason to bet the turn since his kicker wont play after the Q falls. So I am in a bit of a conundrum. I will say that I think its 50/50 as to whether he has air and giving up or had air and picked up a draw, but didnt want to get raised on the turn.

Because he would rarely play a weak ace like this it seems that he has either a better 8 or air, so I thought there would be little value in raising the river.

If I was villain I would normally call turnbet lighter then riverbet because often there is more weak hands in Heros turnbetrange then in his turncheckrange.

Actually I think Hero is just outthinking himself when he checks this turn against an overaggressive player. If Hero checked behind a weak ace I would get it, it will not like if 3BB goes in on the big streets. Trips is huge and against an unbalanced player like this there is no need to think he got a moster or nothing most of the time when he checks turn: Any pair (including aces and Queens), KJ, KT, JT, flushdraw + some hopeless bluffs.

Cool, fwiw I'm 95% sure you would still have to pay as a US citizen, its the same as if I moved to some far away country with different tax laws. Uncle Sam don't care

You know I thought the same thing, but my buddy who lives there is an economist and swears up and down that he does pay federal income tax.

probably talking about something else... just googled it out of curiosity and it looks like there are a number of corporate incentives that avoid federal income tax... nothing for individuals afaik and apparently an individual cant own more than 10% of an exempt company (?)...

fwiw, i'd bet turn and its not close.... also 3-betting if he does c/r would be big spew

edit: just noticed your buddy in from new zealand, and it did say that us virgn islands is the only place a foreigner can live under the us flag w/o federal income tax liability...

The NZ guy is a different guy. Its well known that Puerto Ricans dont pay income tax, which is the main reason they refuse statehood. They, like their St. Croix neighbors cant vote and dont have representation. I assume they are still US citizens.

u dont pay taxes to the country which ur passport says u are from but, normally, to the country u live in, which is pretty natural since u use the welfare system in the country u live in

Unfortunately that's not the way it works in the USA. If your job takes you out of the country for some months it's possible you'll be exempt from US taxes for those months but you may also be responsible for taxes in the country where you were working.

If you stay out of the country for all but 30 days of the year you get an income tax exemption on something like the first 87k you earn on the year. You still owe Social Security tax though.

It would depend on whether you established citizenship of one of the islands or kept citizenship of Cali or wherever. For example, I'm pretty sure that Puerto Rican citizens pay little or no US federal income tax. The analysis gets mroe complicated if you keep US citizenship but earn the money in a completely foreign county that is neither Canada, Britain, or any US territory.

Since its totally hijacked now, yeah kiddo, WillyT's post is correct for Americans, we might get a small bit as a tax exemption but we still owe on the majority of income, regardless of where we live.

9.5, renouncing US citizenship to avoid some taxes strikes me as incredibly -EV.

A big difference can be made by living in a state with no state income tax- florida, washington st., texas, nevada all come to mind.

Back in the day when I was really spewy/bad (ahem) I c/r'd in BB's spot on this specific board texture all the time, and when called, I'd c/f turns that miss me, c/calldown if I paired the Queen, and c/c, c/r when I turned a draw and got there, and I still see this very fairly often (how everyone who still makes this play in 2009 isn't busto is beyond me), and I think this is what he's doing most of the time.

I'd have no problems with renouncing my citizenship, but I'd still be responsible for my entire tax burden, right?

I'm under the impression the us gov't sees renouncing citizenship as intent to evade taxes.