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Prop or rakeback? Prop or rakeback?

06-10-2008 , 10:08 AM
Does anyone with experience of proping for a site have any pointers on this?

I have looked into some prop deals and it seems like the extra 30-40% of rake you recieve is mitigated by seating rules small sites.

Any experienced propers have any comments?
06-11-2008 , 06:18 AM
That's generally the idea - they aren't going to give you 100% more if you're not helping them all that much.

If you like shorthanded play and multi-tabling, give it a shot. I've done it for a while, and it totally screwed up my full-table game, playing 3 and 4 handed all the time ..
06-11-2008 , 01:01 PM
Playing shorthanded should theoretically help your 6-max or fr game so I disagree with the response above, but that's another debate.

OP, it depends on the levels you play, your style of play, etc. It's a great bankroll builder and is quite profitable for a patient person. The competition is weaker than the mega-sites so your winrate will be higher assuming you're a winning player already. Rakeback alone is over 3ptbb/100 as low as 50NL so you'd have to have some fairly significant leaks to not be able to build a nice roll in a relatively short amount of time.

Propping is a gold mine for certain personality/player types, but isn't for everyone. Yes, you'll be playing extremely shorthanded many times. Yes, that will significantly improve your overall game. Yes, you have to abide by a couple simple seating rules that differ from site to site, but none of the rules are unreasonable. No, you can't take out your frustrations in the chat box. Even saying 'nh' is generally discouraged.

Props don't go around advertising how good they have it which makes it hard to get a lot of info on it before jumping in and I don't know what compels me to type all this, but give it a go. The worst that can happen is you don't like it and decide to go back to a mega-site, probably with a larger roll.

Onaflag..........
06-11-2008 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Onaflag
Playing shorthanded should theoretically help your 6-max or fr game so I disagree with the response above, but that's another debate.

OP, it depends on the levels you play, your style of play, etc. It's a great bankroll builder and is quite profitable for a patient person. The competition is weaker than the mega-sites so your winrate will be higher assuming you're a winning player already. Rakeback alone is over 3ptbb/100 as low as 50NL so you'd have to have some fairly significant leaks to not be able to build a nice roll in a relatively short amount of time.

Propping is a gold mine for certain personality/player types, but isn't for everyone. Yes, you'll be playing extremely shorthanded many times. Yes, that will significantly improve your overall game. Yes, you have to abide by a couple simple seating rules that differ from site to site, but none of the rules are unreasonable. No, you can't take out your frustrations in the chat box. Even saying 'nh' is generally discouraged.

Props don't go around advertising how good they have it which makes it hard to get a lot of info on it before jumping in and I don't know what compels me to type all this, but give it a go. The worst that can happen is you don't like it and decide to go back to a mega-site, probably with a larger roll.

Onaflag..........
i dont think any site that has to pay sharks to come is gonna be fishier than the majors...
06-12-2008 , 02:04 PM
Thanks for you considered responce Onaflag.

I have no fear of playing shorthanded but I do have fear of losing a bankroll at a small site and not having enough games in plo.

Does anyone know there are any sites with propping deals that would support a plo/plo8 player? Or are the smaller sites all pretty much he/nlhe.
06-14-2008 , 06:20 AM
well, site i'm on has a full selection of games.. but i've hardly ever seen anyone playing anything but NLHE. I did get a Stud table started once that was full, and i've been in a few shorthanded Omaha games.

It's probably not unreasonable to assume that small sites, even if they have the games, are probably not going to have many people playing anything but hold'em.

When I sit and play hours upon hours of 6-max, or 10 but there's only 4 or 5 people, when i go somewhere else, i have a difficult time re-adjusting to 10-player games.
06-14-2008 , 07:35 AM
i was also just looking into propping after i learned of it recently....but the deals out there are for rooms that are just too small to get any action at PLO imo...also from the way the system works, if u at a small site and ur table fills, u have to leave it right?? or join another table....i dunno seems too complicated for players not looking to play HE

      
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