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03-19-2011 , 12:53 AM

ilb3

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 632

1. Do you lose rakeback by playing in standard FTP freerolls, if so how much and do you have to actually cash or play or register?

2. Is it +EV to play the one-a-day freeroll for Iron Man or is it not worth it considering hit to rakeback?

03-19-2011 , 01:26 AM

coolnout

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12,430

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilb3

Yes you lose rakeback for playing in any freeroll on FTP.
If you are registered and it plays you will take a rakeback hit.

You divide prizepool by entrants and that is the hit to your MGR.

It'd be better to save up the medals and buy tourney tickets unless you're a super busto or something. (you take no rakeback hit for buying from the store, and you don't take a hit on the tourney unless there's an overlay)

Last edited by coolnout; 03-19-2011 at 01:35 AM.

03-19-2011 , 05:03 AM

RakeTheRake

RakeTheRake Representative

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,484

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnout

Yes you lose rakeback for playing in any freeroll on FTP.
If you are registered and it plays you will take a rakeback hit.

You divide prizepool by entrants and that is the hit to your MGR.

Just to be clear, you do not get a hit for any freeroll run by your rakeback affiliate.

Best wishes

Us

03-19-2011 , 04:05 PM

ilb3

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 632

Ok so I played a .NET Onyx Cup Freeroll (i honestly dont know why) prize = tickets.
And a $150 dollar freeroll (45 man payout) did not cash.

Expected hit on rakeback?

I got rakeback on tuesday.
Since then rake according to HEM is $20.18 from cash games and $1.60 from SnGs
So 21.78 in rake. Expected rake (27%) should be $5.88 however rakeback pros is only showing $2.37?

Last edited by ilb3; 03-19-2011 at 04:19 PM.

03-19-2011 , 08:57 PM

ilovesmokes

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 347

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnout

It'd be better to save up the medals and buy tourney tickets unless you're a super busto or something. (you take no rakeback hit for buying from the store, and you don't take a hit on the tourney unless there's an overlay)

If I'm paying FT points to enter a tourney does that affect my rakeback?

03-19-2011 , 09:56 PM

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolnout

(you take no rakeback hit for buying from the store, and you don't take a hit on the tourney unless there's an overlay)

Wait, what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovesmokes

If I'm paying FT points to enter a tourney does that affect my rakeback?

If only there was a helpful sticky somewhere that answered questions like this.

03-20-2011 , 12:46 AM

coolnout

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12,430

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

Wait, what?

ironman store - tourney tickets - no rakeback hit

03-20-2011 , 04:45 AM

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

Yeah, reading comprehension fail on my part - I thought you meant from the FT store.

03-20-2011 , 10:56 AM

ilb3

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 632

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilb3

Anyone?

03-20-2011 , 12:54 PM

#10

coolnout

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 12,430

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilb3

Anyone?

u don't take rakeback hits for playing onyx freerolls since there's no prize of value in the early rounds.

you have to know how many entrants entered the 150$ freeroll. prizepool \ entrants = mgr hit.

also the rakeback week = tues thru monday.

03-20-2011 , 02:29 PM

#11

ilb3

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 632

Ok so then thats - $.02 rakeback for me.

I emailed them so lets see what they tell me. Today it updated to 4 although should be at like 9 something

03-23-2011 , 08:53 AM

#12

ilb3

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 632

Alright now the new week has started.

The amounts of rakeback shown on rakebackpros site are almost half of expected rakeback. But then I read something about it displaying wrong amount but sending people correct amt?

03-23-2011 , 10:08 AM

#13

jfh

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 135

This from Full Tilt Poker rakeback explanation:

Rake Contribution Rake for Full Tilt rakeback is calculated using a Weighted Contributed Method. The weighted contributed rake method credits rake to players based upon how much they have contributed to the pot. For example if a player contributes 20% to the pot then they will receive 20% of the rake from that pot. If however, a player does not contribute to the pot then they will not generate any rake.

03-23-2011 , 02:51 PM

#14

ilb3

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 632

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfh

Huge ball buster right here.

I thought rakeback would be so much better than PKS VIP system, evidently not because FTP screws you out of half of it. Not saying it is not fair, I just had higher hopes.

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