You now have to earn 30 pts for each $5 of bonus received. Up from 20 pts.

these people do anything to get as much money as possible, cheat, change terms, whatever

Well, of course that will only apply to bonus going forward, any pending bonus should still clear at 20/$5. Applying it retroactively would be extremely shady, and I'm sure Absolute would have no part of changing terms retroactively.





HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, right...

Cue coffin, insert final nail.

These people are just total scumbags. WTF kind of timing is this? They know if they can steal almost a million dollars and people will still play there so why not retroctively change bonus terms too?

Yet the players keep going back???????? Owners stealing,cheating props,cheating affiliates and changing term....What does it take for people not to play at a Absolute?????..I am at a loss..

Cops have learned for a long time, that many women will keep returning back to their abusive husbands time and time and time again. It doesn't matter how often they get beat up (even if it kills them literally). So with that knowledge, what can possibly surprise you here?

Human nature is worse than the beast sometimes.

The problem is that there are some players that don't care about anything except where they make the most money. If they have a big enough edge at AP to overcome the bonus change, they'll keep playing there.

It's actually very much ingrained in most of us to always make the most +EV play. Many of us have decided that AP is less +EV than it appears on the surface, due to cheating, retroactive bonus changes, etc, etc. Not everyone sees it that way, obviously.

Also, there seems to be a large school of fish that either have no idea about what has gone on, or don't care.

FWIW I got given $10 by AP a few weeks a go. I turned it into $102 and withdrew it lol. I'll be back there when they give me some more free money to freeroll.

Funny thing is, I got my start online from AP $50 free gift. Turned it into $300 and haven't looked back. I guess I should have a soft spot for them, but I don't.

so sick, UB and AP have actually climbed up the traffic ladders in rankings, according to pokersitescout recently...

lol, such a joke

In their defense, they did state that the 20 point conversion was for a limited time only.

Any publicity is good publicity, I guess?

As little as I want to give AP any credit, that much is true.

Except for the fact they didn't feel the need to tell players it had changed by either emailing them, putting it in the pop up when the software starts or in the cashier. Yet again they just let players figure it out on their own. When a "limited time" lasts 6-8 months and not a week it requires an announcement of some sort IMO.

Although I remember they announced this being a limited time offer I looked at my last reload offer from them and it makes no mention of the clear rate being temporary. I'm sure most if not all of them were this way too. Anyone playing there really can't complain anyway as they know what kind of scumbags they are dealing with, this is just more proof.

What is their defense for looking at hole cards?

No idea. Ask them?

Yeah defo said limited time. Still peeved but if memory serves me correct it was 75pts for $10 before the $5 for 20pts.

Edit to say: They still have far better bonuses than stars, FTP, Party with rakeback and a generous cash for points. So can't complain too much except for those who have never played there still banging on about the hole cards at stakes they will never reach.

I hope you're kidding.

I suppose top professional poker pro Mark Seif may know. Rarely does an expert of his calibre not know what's going on, or make mistakes. Excluding the fact that he made a little tiny mistake about the hand histories showing no evidence at all of something strange. Buy hey, what professional poker player wouldn't make that mistake ehh?

I'll add 2 cents in AP's defence here...
At least they returned a small portion of the sum of monies they stole. Let's be honest folks, how many crooks do you know are that nice to their victims?

Anyhow, their site now says that they are secure & trustworthy. So why not give them a break and just take their word for it?

^^lol

That too was limited time only.

all the times they have lowered there bonus terms they didnt make you clear all your bonus at the bad rate to start getting the good one I would assume

As long as there doing it both ways that part shouldnt be a big deal.

You mean the one time they went down in clear rate from a rate that was impossible to clear at all?

The issue is not that they changed terms on new bonuses. They have every right to do so. It is the fact that they bait and switch, yet another dishonest way they do business. They also don't even bother to notify their players.

As I've said before if you play there you know you will get screwed. You know what you're in for with these thieves.

ROFLMFAO!!!!!

This really should be put up on some sort of 2+2 quote of the day.

Hey, whatever came of that offer from AP to give what's his name a guided tour of their facilities in Gibraltar or wherever it is?