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06-19-2012 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tercet
Hi I was looking for a summer unpaid internship for jr / entry level .net programmer...

I got probably 5-6 smaller offers... I got one on Friday from a company saying they are interested for someone as they do mostly jquery mobile web development for a contract job.. Also in his email he asks what would be my desired starting hourly rate...

Honestly I dont care about salary now, I just want a job to get to get into the field. I am fine doing an unpaid internship ( ask I talked about in my cl add which the company responded to). I am roughly intermediate at most of the web devel stuff, and wanna learn.

Whats my play?

thx
A lot of recruiters are terrible. Your resume gets in their database and one of the search strings in the job description hit a keyword in your resume.

Chances are you are not qualified for this job and were the subject of a blast email.

I wouldn't respond imo
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06-19-2012 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by n00b590
lol
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Originally Posted by unluckyboy
why are you laughing at me?
I'm guessing: Because he's an idiot and doesn't understand that "big" and "small" are relative concepts. It could also be that he's kind of a dick.

Congrats on knocking this one out.
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06-19-2012 , 06:10 PM
Everybody gets a ribbon!
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06-19-2012 , 06:59 PM
Im about finished with a game im making in C# and I was wondering if any of you guys would be willing to take a look at it and give me some pointers or tips or any advice at all. Also, whats the best place to use to upload it to? I dont want to do the files individually because there are about 60 classes (most of them are very small though). Also, I figured out how to do a release build and get a .exe but I didnt know that by using XNA in C# you have to let C# include some XNA Game Framework or we in your release build that the end user has to install in order to play your game
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06-19-2012 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sdturner02
I'm guessing: Because he's an idiot and doesn't understand that "big" and "small" are relative concepts. It could also be that he's kind of a dick.

Congrats on knocking this one out.
its the latter, hes from the sports betting forum.
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06-19-2012 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryanb9
Also, whats the best place to use to upload it to? I dont want to do the files individually because there are about 60 classes (most of them are very small though).
Use free public version control imo.

I use this one for some 2+2 projects: http://www.assembla.com/

I think git is the most common choice although I've only ever used subversion. Then you just give out the git url and people can pull the whole thing and build it. It's useful skills too.
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06-19-2012 , 10:59 PM
ryan,

everything chips said, except pretend he recommended github.
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06-19-2012 , 11:41 PM
Okay thanks guys xD I'm working on it now. I hope you can collapse regions in github >.<
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06-20-2012 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Quick sqlite question for you guys. Say I have two tables, defined as the following:
...
I know you found a solution but I'm pretty sure a minor variant of your original attempt should work:
Code:
DELETE FROM TeamStats where teamid in 
(SELECT teamid FROM TeamStats t 
JOIN Games g 
ON 
g.gameid = t.gameid 
AND g.homeid != t.teamid 
AND g.awayid != t.teamid);
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06-20-2012 , 04:09 AM
I just bought a new Lenovo i5 for $530 + tax. Aside from uninstalling the bloatware that comes with it, I am pretty pleased: metal external, Win7 64, 6gig memory, and nothing else that really matters to me.

I LOVE the default desktop, which will hopefully make life easier on some people:



Yeah, I know, it's not an i7 or a MBP, but I fully suspect that this computer won't cry uncle and crash the interpreters once it attempts to run more than 300 lines of Python / Lisp code and that makes me happy. <- See how "big" is sort of relative?

Now to create a cool programming machine, which will involve installing the following:

Things I know how to use (sort of):
Mozilla Firefox
Opera
Python 2
Python 3
Dr. Racket
XAMMP + Drupal
Emacs + SLIME
Ruby + SASS (CSS Preprocessor) <- Can't use Ruby.

Things I don't know how to use:
Clojure
Linux <- Probably go with Arch or something hardcore, which means it'll probably never be installed or used, lol.

Really, how I would partition all of this would depend on if IE will work on Linux, since, as much as I loathe site-building, even I am sucked into it, just to sell ad-space.
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06-20-2012 , 12:01 PM
Virtual machine with windows inside Linux if you need IE
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06-20-2012 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RoundTower
I know you found a solution but I'm pretty sure a minor variant of your original attempt should work:
Code:
DELETE FROM TeamStats where teamid in 
(SELECT teamid FROM TeamStats t 
JOIN Games g 
ON 
g.gameid = t.gameid 
AND g.homeid != t.teamid 
AND g.awayid != t.teamid);
This wouldn't work because teamid isn't unique, teamid and gameid together are. If you could do something like teamid, gameid IN, that would work, but I don't think you can, hence the ugly string concatenation.
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06-20-2012 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I just bought a new Lenovo i5 for $530 + tax. Aside from uninstalling the bloatware that comes with it, I am pretty pleased
i just ordered a new Lenovo Thinkpad w530, should be here within two weeks. i've had my current thinkpad for 5 years so its about time for an upgrade. solid machines. i get the power of the macbookpro at half the price, without the screen
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06-20-2012 , 02:47 PM
I'm waiting for my new retina MBP... I know, I'll be quiet...
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06-20-2012 , 03:20 PM
This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but in case anyone happens to know about watches....

I have a Tissot watch (I think its this one http://www.tissot.ch/?mod_collection...s_450/scroll_0) which runs on a perpetual motion system.

It stopped working a few weeks ago and I took it to a local watch dealer to see if they could get it fixed. Basically the hammer at the back of the watch that turns to wind the spring has slipped off its hinge.

I got a call today from the dealer and they are quoting me $200CAD +tax for the repair. This includes the repair, and a complete service on the watch (internal clean, replace seals etc) and a 1 year warrantee on the repair.

Does this sound like a reasonable quote?

G
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06-20-2012 , 04:50 PM
Try the watch thread in EDF
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06-20-2012 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Freakin
Try the watch thread in EDF
Awesome, thanks
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06-20-2012 , 09:55 PM
today at work: a representative quote and snippet

Quote:
[tyler and k have been banging on a problem together for over an hour]

e: [walks over] everything you guys have said for the past twenty minutes has sounded very wrong. what are you working on?

k: we're trying to debug a threading problem in the unit tests that use this tornado ioloop.

e: oh. [backs away slowly]
Code:
def catch_thread_explosion(self):
    try:
        self.server.run()
    except (Exception, SystemExit), exc:
        print "Thread exploded: %r" % exc
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06-20-2012 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I'm waiting for my new retina MBP... I know, I'll be quiet...
I once watched a youtube video, and someone made an interesting point. He said that many people who say they hate Apple, when pressed, would probably buy an Apple if it weren't so expensive. I agree with his opinion that this is a strange reason to dislike a product. I mean, do you hate Porche because they are too expensive?

It's one thing to dislike Apple because you don't like the fan-boy mentality, which I could sort of understand, except that means the anti-apple crowd is stuck using an Android, which makes someone a what? A utilitarian, anti-fanboy, android-fan?

Maybe the idea that they are more than happy to perpetuate the "Apple doesn't get Window's viruses" idea, suggesting that Apple gets no viruses, is off-putting. This was supposed to be countered by the fact that so many idiot Windows users were moving over to Mac, thus the idiot pool is expanded, and let's all wait for the impending Macapolips, which never happened. Maybe it's still lack of user-base or maybe Apple really is creating a great OS.

Maybe their hardware is really better, and that justifies to extra price for weaker hardware, or maybe it's their support staff, or maybe it's their well-integrated Unix OS.

With that said, I simply cannot afford a Mac, and I don't have too much opinion on them, though I never did like Steve Jobs that much. When it comes to spending $1500+ or more for a Mac vs what I currently have, well, $1500 pays off a lot of debt, pays for a used car, and new scooter, or a few months rent. All of those things I cannot fade.

Thinking critically, I never thought the iPad was as well-created as it could have been, and I was pretty resistant to any tablet pc, but my Android Tablet changed all of that: my only regret is that I didn't spend the extra ~$100 to buy a Galaxy Tab w/ wifi + faster processor + more memory, so if I had the money to drop, would I spend the money?

Anyways, I sort of figure that people who are legitimate power-users or programmers have a good reason to use Mac. Those in the film and music industry have legitimate reason as well. Otherwise, for average hunt-and-peck joe-blow who wouldn't know the difference between Safari and Firefox, I don't see a good reason to spend the money, though if it all breaks down to not getting Windows viruses and keeps him from having to pay out the bum because he download everything he can find, I guess it works for him as well.

Regardless, I figure all OS's and computers have their issues, and it really breaks down to not finding what you love, but rather finding what irritates you the least, and if Mac wins that war in your heart, why do I care?
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06-21-2012 , 11:42 AM
Excellent post
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06-21-2012 , 12:52 PM
is there a consensus among programmers on which web browser is best?
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06-21-2012 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by unluckyboy
is there a consensus among programmers on which web browser is best?
I like chrome at the moment because it has really good developer tools, a lot of programmers will prefer Firefox+Firebug tho.

However, its very important to test your code on ALL web browsers
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06-21-2012 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by daveT
I once watched a youtube video, and someone made an interesting point. He said that many people who say they hate Apple, when pressed, would probably buy an Apple if it weren't so expensive. I agree with his opinion that this is a strange reason to dislike a product. I mean, do you hate Porche because they are too expensive?

It's one thing to dislike Apple because you don't like the fan-boy mentality, which I could sort of understand, except that means the anti-apple crowd is stuck using an Android, which makes someone a what? A utilitarian, anti-fanboy, android-fan?

Maybe the idea that they are more than happy to perpetuate the "Apple doesn't get Window's viruses" idea, suggesting that Apple gets no viruses, is off-putting. This was supposed to be countered by the fact that so many idiot Windows users were moving over to Mac, thus the idiot pool is expanded, and let's all wait for the impending Macapolips, which never happened. Maybe it's still lack of user-base or maybe Apple really is creating a great OS.

Maybe their hardware is really better, and that justifies to extra price for weaker hardware, or maybe it's their support staff, or maybe it's their well-integrated Unix OS.

With that said, I simply cannot afford a Mac, and I don't have too much opinion on them, though I never did like Steve Jobs that much. When it comes to spending $1500+ or more for a Mac vs what I currently have, well, $1500 pays off a lot of debt, pays for a used car, and new scooter, or a few months rent. All of those things I cannot fade.

Thinking critically, I never thought the iPad was as well-created as it could have been, and I was pretty resistant to any tablet pc, but my Android Tablet changed all of that: my only regret is that I didn't spend the extra ~$100 to buy a Galaxy Tab w/ wifi + faster processor + more memory, so if I had the money to drop, would I spend the money?

Anyways, I sort of figure that people who are legitimate power-users or programmers have a good reason to use Mac. Those in the film and music industry have legitimate reason as well. Otherwise, for average hunt-and-peck joe-blow who wouldn't know the difference between Safari and Firefox, I don't see a good reason to spend the money, though if it all breaks down to not getting Windows viruses and keeps him from having to pay out the bum because he download everything he can find, I guess it works for him as well.

Regardless, I figure all OS's and computers have their issues, and it really breaks down to not finding what you love, but rather finding what irritates you the least, and if Mac wins that war in your heart, why do I care?
I've never understood the cost argument all that much. I mean, yes they are expensive but hating on Apple because you can't afford it seems to be like hating on Honda Accords because you can only afford the Fit. To be honest most of the Apple hate comes off sounding like sour grapes to me. Not that Apple fanbois didn't bring the hate on themselves by being pretty unbearable in the 80's and 90's (before I could afford them, so don't blame me...). Anymore it's pretty much a combination of horses for courses and what your work uses. I'm fortunate enough to work for a Mac shop so was able to make an almost total switch to Apple. I try not to be too much of a dick about it to my Windows friends, sometimes more successfully than others...
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06-21-2012 , 03:41 PM
The really weird thing about the cost argument is that it often comes from nerds who spend tons of time on their computers. As a nerd who spends tons of time on my computer, my computer is ridiculously important for my happiness, and computers just aren't that expensive for an item like that.

In short, for $1k more every couple of years or so, I can have a significantly better version of a possession that's extremely important to me. That's not even close to true for other things of comparable importance, like cars/apartments.
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06-21-2012 , 03:57 PM
At my work we just received a formal letter that has "/j" a couple lines below everything else. I think i've seen this before but usually it was with someones initials. what does this mean? just curious. this is also a difficult question to Google whilst bored at work.
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