Thanks for the link. I kept meaning to check out the new forum more but it’s funny how habits get so ingrained. I always figured the election year would be my main motivation since from the little I can tell this place has become generally terrible.

I'm here, and still post in Video Games a little, and read this forum but it's been pretty slow.

lol did not know what forum existed. Seems pretty weird

Mason kept threatening to shut down the old politics forum because a few very loud noisy white supremacists complained in ATF about getting banned. Mat shut it down for one day because a poster insulted Sarah Huckabee Sanders' looks and wasn't banned within an hour. Basically they were looking for excuses, because Mason hated the liberal politics of most regs.

They finally negotiated a mutual parting with the old politics regs.

Then as soon as the new forum sprang up they made a rule of no more complaining about the politics forum in ATF.

R*R made that rule a few weeks or months before the old forum shut down actually. I forget exactly. I think it's a bad rule but whatever.

Oh so that's where everyone went. I did not get the memo.

Before it officially shut down. But after the regs left.

It was obvious they got what they wanted in an excuse to kill the old forum, then immediately changed the rules to avoid future complaints about the new forum.

No, it was before any of that.

Edit: to be clear, the only reason I care at all about this little detail is just that I don't want it to be the case that people feel like they are unable to criticize me or the modding of the new forum. I had some issues with the way those threads were handled in ATF prior to Mat closing the old forum, and I have no objection to people starting threads to criticize the forum now. I'm pretty well aware of the timing of things because I was involved in all of it. I realize it's sort of a silly derail of this thread, so I'll leave it at that.

Some of the old Politics regs are hardcore about boycotting the old 2p2. Some like me are not.

I even participated in the new Politics forum for a while until I got tired of the brazen gaslighting and corresponding negative effects on my mental sanity.

Well, the Politics forum got shut down and it just so happens that many of the people in this thread also posted a lot in Politics and migrated over there. There was never a concerted effort to move programming talk from here to there, just kinda happened.

Anyone who wants is welcome over there too, of course!

See you guys are doing it all wrong. I just keep my politics talk at work instead /sarcasm.

the split really hurt the programming discussion which sucks. so I really hope yall post more over there. I learned a ton from this forum and got a lot of good guidance. hopefully candybar comes over too but he doesnt seem to post much anyway.

Anyone know any like actual programming forums? Like a 2p2 for programming? Reddit you don’t really get the community aspect we have here , but then here’s it’s really just one thread

I've long thought this thread (and now the one on the other forum) was the best resource for general programming information, and something of an ace in the hole for me.

If there's some new area (like python, or AWS) that i have no familiarity with - I can often get pointed in the right direction by this thread. That's huge and can lop off a ton of time in getting up to speed. I can also get expert level analysis on stuff I am familiar with like javascript.

What would an "actual programming forum" have on it?

It would look like Stack Overflow - and suck just as bad.

Great article helping visualize prototypical inheritance: https://dev.to/lydiahallie/javascrip...heritance-47co

Idk, diff topics (languages? Domains like ai and analytics? Off topic for exercise or politics?) same as any other forum?

What I never understand is how this is really any different from classical inheritance? It seems like they just explain how inheritance is implemented, not how it’s fundamentally different

Some interesting discussion here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...ed-inheritance

Seems like prototype-based makes sense for a dynamically-typed language.

I've reached the "we need a shared front-end library" phase of our new app platform.

In the past I've had a separate repo - and a startup script that always pulled in the latest shared code. This was necessary because we had scores of offshore devs - and no way I was going to leave it up to them when to update the lib version in their apps, or their local environments.

It worked but I can go a lot easier in the new environment as we only have a few senior-level front end devs. So I'm thinking a more standard npm-like approach where there's a shared lib and it's up to the app owner to update to a new version. However I really don't want to go through all the hassle of an internal npm server just for this.

Anyone ever had to do this and have cleaner ways? There's always bower I guess. There's also npm directly to the git repo.

I will say an npm registry is super nice but it sounds like github would work fine assuming you don’t have to worry about scaling to dozens of devs. It also forces automatic upgrades when you update master obv so make sure versioning isn’t hugely important

Do you mean some kind of startup script that pulls from github - or pointing npm package.json directly do the gitub url? We're using create react app btw. So I can do webpack things as well.

I guess I'd like to avoid having to remind the devs to use anything other than npm install and npm start in their local environments. Although I could always add stuff to npm start that does a check then possible install (but it would slow it down).

Whoa, I'm not gonna create another account on another site but holy crap I just saw the jmakin thread. I didn't realize how badly the situation has deteriorated.

Jmakin,

You seem to be getting generally bad advice on and off the forum. I do not believe your company has a single overall competent, well-grounded person that you should listen to on career matters. Your resume should be decent and you should be able to find some kind of position at a decent company - I don't quite understand your interests or technical skills, but I'm sure you can find something. I would focus on putting yourself in a place that is objectively decent (nearly any Fortune 500 would be a step above), is generally full of normal people, that is big and stable enough to provide some sort of overall structure, guidance and community. Jumping from one weird little situation to another isn't going to be helpful - you need to be at a stable place with a structure that you personally cannot manipulate.

One way to think about early-stage startups is that they are trying to turn what's not real into real. So in a sense, everything about how they operate is designed to interfere with our sense of reality. For well-adjusted people, this isn't necessarily an issue and people can compartmentalize. But if you're personally struggling with some aspects of mental health and your personal situation is already making the situation worse, you need to really distance yourself from this type of world and get yourself a very normal job that has a fixed reality that you cannot mess around with.

Theory-aside, do people really make use of prototype-based inheritance? I feel like the vast majority of people either don't use inheritance at all, use whatever features of prototype-based inheritance almost exclusively to simulate classes.