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08-20-2018 , 01:34 PM

#34601

jjshabado

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Suzzer, have you used meet or Zoom?

Every conference room can show the current and up coming meetings. You click one button to join the video conference for the current meeting. Nobody needs to touch the camera or speakers.

If someone wants to present they can join and present their screen to everyone.

If someone wants to select a different screen to show you use the arrows on the remote and select the box you want to make big.

Honestly a company and team that can't figure this **** out isn't worth working for or with.

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08-20-2018 , 01:37 PM

#34602

iversonian

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Sounds like your IT guy just sucks. The game done changed and he hasn’t kept up.

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08-20-2018 , 01:44 PM

#34603

jjshabado

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Similar to what I was saying before, this is also a core competency for any decently sized company. If you can't make conference calls work for a remote person how do you function with people on different floors / buildings / cities / countries? How do you meet with clients? Candidates? Etc.

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08-20-2018 , 02:06 PM

#34604

Larry Legend

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I will say at my last company i would Google meet into our scrum in an uber/Lyft on the way in and it was flawless 99% of the time and that 1% was trying to communicate in a tunnel.

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08-20-2018 , 02:12 PM

#34605

Larry Legend

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I use zoom now a lot but there's still some standard lost time at the beginning of the call when having external people call in.

Funny enough as I'm writing this we had an issue where one person was reverbing even tho they had everything muted.

It's really good but imperfect.

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08-20-2018 , 03:00 PM

#34606

suzzer99

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I don't think you guys understand that we're not talking about one person projecting their monitor somewhere. We're talking about big gnarly expensive video conferencing hardware and control panel things and then random wfh people trying to connect up to that with skype for business or whatever.

And yes, the IT department might suck. But the point is I know this is the norm at lots of big companies.

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08-20-2018 , 03:07 PM

#34607

jjshabado

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Maybe that's what you were talking about?

But I said:

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* Do all conference rooms have video chat software already set up and easy to use?

And you didn't seem to think that was possible at all. And I'm telling you that it is. Possibly the secret is that you don't need "big gnarly expensive video conferencing hardware and control panel things".

I don't doubt that lots of companies have ****ty IT departments and can't figure it out. But that's what you want to figure out before you join the company.

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08-20-2018 , 03:27 PM

#34608

goofyballer

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Right - but based on all my experience and all the snarky jokes I see on twitter - very few companies can actually handle full scale video conference integration w/o constant hassles. You'd think in 2018 this would be a solved problem - but no.

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Originally Posted by iversonian

Sounds like your IT guy just sucks. The game done changed and he hasn’t kept up.

^ this, we use video chat in lots of meetings and it's pretty seamless.

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08-20-2018 , 03:47 PM

#34609

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

I'm not arguing with that. I'm just saying many many companies fit that bill. Sometimes that's just the world you live in and you can't do anything about it.

I read jokes out it all the time and have lived it at 2 big companies. One problem with our company is that they made some deal with Microsoft, so we had to use Skype for Business. Everyone hated it.

I will make sure to ask to inspect the video conferencing setup on my next job interview though.

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08-20-2018 , 03:52 PM

#34610

suzzer99

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I'm enjoying the typical first day on the job: sign up/register for a million things while bombarded with tons of info. you can't possibly retain, punctuated by staring blankly at the screen for chunks of time. Just found out I have to pay for my own parking. Bleh.

But the good news is they're basically counting on me to architect this whole AWS lambda platform. I'm gonna be in way over my head but when it's all said and done I'll have learned a ton and be making tons of decisions.

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08-20-2018 , 03:53 PM

#34611

jjshabado

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I will make sure to ask to inspect the video conferencing setup on my next job interview though.

I'm honestly not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not. But if you're planning on being remote or the company actively supports remote workers - yes, you should absolutely find out about this.

Edit: This isn't a strange question either. Candidates regularly ask me things like this in interviews - because even if they're not remote we're clear that other people they'll work with can be remote or in a different office.

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08-20-2018 , 04:44 PM

#34612

suzzer99

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Just my experience, but none of my remote jobs started out remote. They migrated that way after I built something. Or when I joined a remote team.

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08-20-2018 , 04:48 PM

#34613

suzzer99

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So we're basically starting from scratch at my new job. The boss' preference is to avoid servers (including EC2 instances etc.). So we're looking at hosted git. Gitlab.com seems to have some nice features over github.com.

https://www.reddit.com/r/devops/comm...ting_platform/

The built-in CI flow is enticing to me as I'd rather avoid having to start from scratch with Jenkins. Anyone have any experience with this?

Anyone have any other hosted git platforms they like?

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08-20-2018 , 07:06 PM

#34614

emmpee

grinder

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Bitbucket has Pipelines as their built-in CI/CD product. I haven't gotten in-depth with it yet but it's easy to get started with.

I just wrote a blog article on setting up basic CD with Pipelines and AWS Lambda. On mobile right now but I'll PM you the link later, maybe it'll help you get started if you go that route.

Last edited by emmpee; 08-20-2018 at 07:23 PM.

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08-20-2018 , 07:23 PM

#34615

Barrin6

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Anyone know of any good conferences to go to? I basically have a budget of 5k$ to spend on travel+conferences that I need to spend. It’s a use it or lose it situation.

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08-20-2018 , 07:44 PM

#34616

jjshabado

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What are you interested in?

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08-20-2018 , 07:46 PM

#34617

PJo336

THRILLHOUSE!

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Just use github with travis

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Originally Posted by Barrin6

Anyone know of any good conferences to go to? I basically have a budget of 5k$ to spend on travel+conferences that I need to spend. It’s a use it or lose it situation.

QCon in san fran, cya there!

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08-20-2018 , 07:53 PM

#34618

OmgGlutten!

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Just pick the best city to vacation in

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08-20-2018 , 09:08 PM

#34619

Grue

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Reddit down for 2+ hours

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08-20-2018 , 10:15 PM

#34620

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by PJo336

Just use github with travis

Travis doesn't have Windows build or test support, also it costs money if your project isn't open source. With github for hosted CI we'd probably have to use AppVeyor - which isn't cheap.

Gitlab.com supports windows and linux out of the box, and has 10GB repo limit vs. 1GB for github. Definitely leaning toward gitlab hosted unless we found out it doesn't do something we need, or we outgrow it.

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08-20-2018 , 10:15 PM

#34621

jjshabado

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I think AWS ReInvent is the best conference I’ve ever gone too in terms of actually learning stuff. And it’s in Vegas which isn’t too bad. It’s massive though.

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08-20-2018 , 10:17 PM

#34622

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by emmpee

Yeah please do. I'm pretty familiar with stash from 5 years of coding on it. But some things about it bugged me. Like we had a cool plugin that let you edit readme files inline. Then it disappeared for some reason and according to our DevOps guy it wasn't available anymore.

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08-20-2018 , 10:18 PM

#34623

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

I think AWS ReInvent is the best conference I’ve ever gone too in terms of actually learning stuff. And it’s in Vegas which isn’t too bad. It’s massive though.

We're going to AWS Summit in Anaheim this Thursday. It's free so I'm not expecting too much.

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08-20-2018 , 10:33 PM

#34624

emmpee

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Yeah - some of the Atlassian on-prem stuff gets to me too.

I have a client that uses JIRA, Bitbucket, Bamboo, and Confluence, all on-prem. All of them have places where you need to write text markup of some sort - a JIRA comment, Confluence article, etc. But do they use the same markup? Of course not. I swear every one is different. Different formats for links, formatting text as code, etc.