Isn't this company Australian? or am I imagining that entirely.

It's both now. I'm getting paid by the U.S. version.

Btw if anyone needs a node/JS dev - I'm ready for a new side job. Willing to learn react and/or DevOps (or anything new really) on the job cheap.

1st world, 1 percenter problems itt

Yes I am aware. Someone needs to tell me to just shut my mouth and take the free money.

This is obviously the correct answer but I also find this pretty hard to do myself.

Yeah it seems like taking the money and doing the minimum is the right answer in these circumstances.

Meh different life philosophies I guess, but I somehow doubt a few extra months of miserably collecting a check is gonna put a smile on his face if he happens to make 80. I'd rather enjoy what I do and like jj said seems like it'd be worth trying to negotiate towards that

do you know Meteor?

That must have been queued up for a long time

Fwiw I'd recommend other books before that now, most likely, but it all depends on your goals and current knowledge.

You'll need viagra one day so the money will come in handy. Just saying.

It sounds like it's been tried and failed. The problem is about who they are, not what they are doing and he's not going to change them. At some point, the pain comes from the pointless pursuit of change and some sense of devotion to the company's success that is mostly undeserved. I personally have a very hard time doing this but at some point you have to disengage - there are only 24 hours in a day and you can't be responsible for everything. Also for most people, money is what allows people to do what they enjoy.

Also the problem, in terms of how he feels, could be more about the general absence of positive aspects across his technical endeavors than the presence of specific negative aspects in this gig. It's possible that if he finds another interesting project to pour his energy into, this won't feel as bad as it currently does. People are much better at counting money than at diagnosing the reason why they feel the way they do.

Those are all good books. I like to read Clean code and watch Uncle Bob's video tutorials.

I recommend:
https://www.amazon.com/Object-Orient.../dp/020189551X
With Sybase Powerdesigner manual.

Suzzer, whatever you do, don't quit. It seems like easy money and even though you don't need it, it might come useful someday

I seen some **** in my life and having money just makes life easier. You can't ever plan for unexpected stuff happening to you. You could be reversing your car and suddenly hit an old lady, almost killing her. Then you'll have to pay money for an attorney.

You can't plan for the unexpected, so save some extra money (to plan for the unexpected).

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man, I really hope you can some how pull off 3 jobs at once.

Lol it's crossed my mind.

I've been blowing a lot of money on camera equipment, photo trips and other random crap. Gonna be hard to go back to single income.

You know the saying, once you live large, you can't ever go back.

I should really be doing more hookers and blow.

dang i must be super lucky because i can't imagine doing miserable work for money. started out in finance and at this decent i-bank, i told my vp i'm leaving and he said he wants to do the same each year but then sees the bonus check and changes his mind. i still remember his face when the director told him to get a pitchbook ready over the weekend

current dev role on the other hand, get to work with a passionate team, solve fun problems, and make $$, literally being paid to have fun

btw my team is hiring a senior dev if anyone here knows python and JS (django and react would be a plus) in SF, 200+ ppl, series D if that matters

What happened to that thread?

I think most people's perception of what is "miserable work" is pretty warped and at least in technology, every place has tons of boring, miserable work that in a vacuum no one would want to do - the best places to work are places where tons of miserable work get done with a positive attitude and the worst places are places where no one does any miserable work and tries to work on the good stuff. This is what I meant when I was emphasizing absence of positives as as opposed to presence of negatives - virtually every job is miserable if there just aren't enough positives that motivate you to get through the negatives. Not that there aren't possible negatives that can overwhelm but I don't think that's what we're dealing with here.

i don't think there's any point talking about the extremes of how much miserable work gets done, why would you even try to quantify that to measure your happiness?

instead, just think through some questions:

do you like going to work every morning?
do you like think about work problems outside of work?
do you enjoy talking with every one of your teammates?
...

i personally answer yes to these, and if i'm answering no to most/all of them, i'd be miserable and i'd leave

obviously they don't apply to everyone, so instead you can come up with your own set of questions and go according

i think the attitude of "man there's a ton **** work and i just hope everyone comes together to get it all done", seems super pessimistic

There's no need to quantify any of this. The point is that people are bad at understanding why they feel something and if you have two jobs, one of which is remote, it's quite unlikely that it's solely responsible for how he feels about the work.

But why?

Much of why and how people feel about something, for example, has to do with human interactions and physical environments for instance. The solution may very well be something like find a great coworking space instead of quit one of your two jobs which would be like taking a job that pays half of your current salary that you already know isn't that great.

This isn't what I said.

I kind of agree with the 'quit the job' crowd here in that this may be a fairly easy decision if this was the sole full time job. Attribution doesn't matter as much because, well, you get to quit the whole job, who cares what exactly was the problem if you didn't enjoy, right? One unique problem here is that because of the two-job situation, getting the attribution right is important - he doesn't get to replace the entirety of his working situation, just the lesser half. The other problem is that it's much easier to get a regular full-time job than a second job where you get a full-time salary working the odd hours.

Yeah that. These kinds of opportunities don't come along too often.

Also I saw something yesterday where 48 is the peak earning age for a man. I turn 48 in 5 days. Feel like I should be making hay while the sun shines.

Anyway we had a meeting yesterday and resolved a lot of the crap. Er, I guess moved on is more accurate. We'll see if they still want me around after my vacation.