Hmm interesting, I thought offers from big companies like Google would only be for people with CS Degrees.

Actually I have a friend who graduated from a dev bootcamp, and somehow landed a software qa job at Apple. Makes me wonder why I am even in school.

I always thought I would be down to move to SF and find a job out there, but then I keep hearing about the price to rent and then I change my mind.

$4295 for a studio too rich for you?

To avoid a job in QA, I assume.

this. and to avoid having to say to people your education consisted of "dev bootcamp"

Yup I was looking to go but it just seems pointless. Might as well do nyc and get some diversity. Unfortunately I'm become interested with Denver but there aren't a ton of jobs there as far as I can tell

i heard denver has heavily invested in bringing web jobs to the area, which is why they have one of the better boot camps in the area

What are you looking for?

Austin seems to be the next big tech place considering Apple is opening up shop there

Im a web server side Java dev but I'd like to expand a lot. So really anything that would hire me for Java, scala, Python, js with the latter two less experience. Eventually I want to get into data science but I'm entirely too inexperienced now

We're always hiring in NYC so feel free to PM your information or just to ask more questions.

Although TBH it sounds like you probably don't have enough experience for us right now.

Edit: That goes for anyone here. No promises of anything, but recruiting is hard - so I'll always at least take a look.

Yeah I think I'm in that annoying middle ground right now where I'm above entry level but below the next set of qualifications that usually ask for 5 years plus. For the record I have a masters and 3+ years experience in dev across 2 companies and some experience with qa


I just visited nyc and loved it but idk how I'd handle the rent. What sort of qualifications is your company looking for?

i overheard that some companies consider time spent at school as part of the "X years experience required"

confirm/deny?

Everything - more or less.

We have positions open for all experience levels and from front end work to some pretty hard core back end infrastructure work. Almost all web/cloud based so no hardware or really low-level work.

I don't want to say anything too specific publicly.

Edit: Also - we pay well enough that rent isn't a problem unless you want to live in a well above average place.

We don't really have a hard "X years experience" requirement. We say we require a degree, but I know at least a few people have been hired without it.

Most of our experience requirements are usually phrased more around actual technologies/things done rather than X years.

don't you reside in canada? Seems rent wouldn't be a problem if remote work was an option

There have been quite a few places opening dev offices here recently. Apple, Roku, Tableau, Amazon to name a few.

I do. But we don't hire developers that are remote. There's a few of us that are remote for historical reasons (for lack of a better term) and a few that have gone remote after working in person for a reasonable period of time.

Mostly I just want something to branch out from just Java. Really don't want to get pidgin holed into Java for life

Apple is opening up Beats and other branches in Los Angeles too...

I'd say that, overall, the tech scene is smaller in Austin than LA, SF, NY, or Boston, but there is a lot more data stuff and very little in the web sphere. There is a burgeoning startup scene, which of course, they need a website or some end-user interface, but you won't find many web dev houses. The problems they are solving are very different down here, if that makes any sense.

I've recently attended a Human Computer Interaction conference and a simple comment finally made me realize why I'm so suspicious of the old LET US AGILE movement.
Design Thinking is kind of the hypetrain counterpart to agile in the designer world (obviously developers are involved as well).
So there was a talk about it and the old feel good vibe that you get from agile talks was abuzz (yay team...CREATIVITY YO)...and then there was this comment
"you know...some of us are introverts"

I don't recall reading about this explicitly before. Seems like agile pretty much assumes you're ok with all the YAY-TEAM stuff. But for an introvert that is actually scarry stuff and an efficiency nightmare/drain.
Researched it a bit and bought a pop-book on the topic that should arrive tomorrow ("Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking"). I mean it's quite obvious but hearing someone say it out loud made me realize that a lot of the situation in which I thought "well there's something odd about this agile stuff today" are pretty much 100% rooted in the fact that I'm uncomfortable with forcing introverted folks to become people people.

I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection between agile not being for introverts because "yea team!" One would hope that the scrum master and management would realize that different people on the team need different forms of motivation to continue to meet their commits. I know it's not in the introverts wheel house but one would hope they would be able to express this either in the retrospectives or privately to the scrum master.

i'd wager kent beck would describe himself as an introvert. i don't think associating agile with "anti-introvert" is fair, even if some people incorrectly practice it that way.

Cmon a scrum meeting == a status update. What developer does not have to report on their status periodically? Also how many developers don't have to work in a team environment?

The problem with Agile/Scrum is the most implementations I have seen are from large companies where management doesn't want to let go of product schedule and just ends up layering the scrum meetings on top of a large pile of existing meetings.