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08-27-2015 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
What the heck, I thought the internet was supposed to be getting easier to use for the lay person. I need to make a squeeze page for someone and it now appears that all the simple services that just used to be cgi forms are now $30/month services that generate a single page to collect an email address. There are no free options that work that I've found. Being able to collect someones email on a front page something that was solved like two decades ago, what kind of absurd regression is this.
There's plenty of free options, http://mailchimp.com is really solid for collecting e-mails and also being able to perform various activities on your list. They also have like 20 different ways to render/customize the forms and fields you collect and it's free for the first 10,000 emails you send out using their list options.
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08-27-2015 , 07:37 AM
Google have made a post about upgrading from Angular 1.x to Angular 2.

They're going to support mixing of the frameworks. Using a package called ng-upgrade, Angular 1 directives can be converted one at a time to Angular 2 and ng-upgrade will convert it back to Angular 1 via transcompiling, so the app continues to run under Angular 1 until such time as everything is converted.

Also, two-way databinding will still be supported with slightly different syntax:

Code:
<input type="text" [(ng-model)]="someModel" />
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08-27-2015 , 07:44 AM
Also the Angular app I'm developing is continuing apace. If the stories about a difficult learning curve are true, I haven't hit it yet. Everything has been easy so far.

ui-grid, however, has one of the worst APIs I've ever encountered. Today it was doing this thing where it "selects" a cell, even after focus leaves the grid, whereupon the "selection" is meaningless - it doesn't do anything. Clicking any unselected cell opens it for editing straightaway, but a selected one requires a double click. After frustrating time spent digging through the API, and a StackOverflow question (which, please answer if you have a better idea) I solved the problem with this truly horrendous jQuery-dependent directive. Look upon it and despair:

Code:
(function () {
    angular.module('eventApp').directive('autoEdit', function () {
        return function (scope, element, attrs) {
            function doubleClick() {
                $(this, '.ui-grid-cell-focus').dblclick();
            }
            $(element).on('blur', '.ui-grid-cell-focus ~ div input', function () {
                $(this).closest('div').parent().children('.ui-grid-cell-focus').unbind('click', doubleClick).click(doubleClick);
            });
        }
    });
})();
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08-27-2015 , 08:37 AM
You guys already know about this secret path to google employment?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/08/goo...lands-man-job/
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08-27-2015 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
What the heck, I thought the internet was supposed to be getting easier to use for the lay person. I need to make a squeeze page for someone and it now appears that all the simple services that just used to be cgi forms are now $30/month services that generate a single page to collect an email address. There are no free options that work that I've found. Being able to collect someones email on a front page something that was solved like two decades ago, what kind of absurd regression is this.
You clearly have not been following the startup scene recently. It works like this:

1. Find a common problem that's been solved for 20 or 30 years, preferably something a few lines of bash can solve well from the command line. Call that thing X.
2. Pitch your idea "X as a service" -- with taglines such as "X, made dead simple" and "We take the hassle out of X" or "We craft X with love".
3. Make a minimalist homepage with one of your taglines front and center: http://tiffzhang.com/startup
4. If anyone asks why customers would pay $X/mo for something that can be done in 30 minutes by a competent dev, LOL in their face, and enjoy their quaintly naive understanding of business, while you tell them that $X/mo is nothing for a big corporation, and is an incredible value for never having to think about X themselves.


The steps are above are not a parody.
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08-27-2015 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Thanks! Btw what are your thoughts on web components?
It makes the web a little better as an application platform and a lot better as an ad-delivery platform. It's going to be a while before it actually impacts development but pretty much all the major players seem to be on board, so it's a matter of time. What I don't yet understand is how frameworks are going to bridge the gap in the meantime - you don't want to release a new framework that doesn't work with it, but you also don't want to release a framework that requires it, because polyfills don't really work that well.
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08-27-2015 , 04:10 PM
It looks a lot like a W3C version of directives and templates to me. Is that fairly accurate?
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08-27-2015 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
It looks a lot like a W3C version of directives and templates to me. Is that fairly accurate?
Pretty much with the major difference is that web components are better encapsulated and scoped, which means they are not as fragile as angular directives, which can much more easily interfere with the outside world and in turn be disturbed by outside changes. It's a cross between an iframe and an angular directive and should be more secure than both, though I'm not too familiar with the exact semantics.
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08-27-2015 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by candybar
What I don't yet understand is how frameworks are going to bridge the gap in the meantime - you don't want to release a new framework that doesn't work with it, but you also don't want to release a framework that requires it, because polyfills don't really work that well.
Have you looked at Angular 2 at all? It's being written as a transition to web components. Most directives in Angular 2 are now referred to as components, in fact. Google are writing both Angular 2 and the web components spec so it's no surprise that the two will be heavily linked.
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08-27-2015 , 07:15 PM
Do you use ui-grid for grids candybar, or something else?
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08-27-2015 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Have you looked at Angular 2 at all? It's being written as a transition to web components. Most directives in Angular 2 are now referred to as components, in fact. Google are writing both Angular 2 and the web components spec so it's no surprise that the two will be heavily linked.
Angular 2 requires web components AFAIK though, so it won't really help you during transition. This is kind of the major problem with web components - even if you know it's the future, there's really not much you can do to prepare for it until it's supported by all major browsers. And it's virtually impossible to write a framework to take advantage of web components and have it be production-level useful for browsers that don't support web components.
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08-27-2015 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Do you use ui-grid for grids candybar, or something else?
For our main app, pretty much no useful grid solution or really anything else existed for Angular at the time, so I wrote custom directives around Datatables jQuery plugin, though I ended up rewriting it completely not long after using their server-side API. For other apps, we haven't really needed any fancy functionality beyond what could be easily implemented in Angular so we custom-rolled most things.
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08-28-2015 , 02:41 AM
Lol Amazon.

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08-28-2015 , 06:19 PM
Was that fulfilled by Amazon or a 3rd party seller? Either way, open A-Z and get a full refund. wow.
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08-28-2015 , 09:02 PM
But it's going to be here in 14-31 days!!!
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08-28-2015 , 09:48 PM
Prime says I'll get it in 2 days. I'm not ready for it though.
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08-29-2015 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RiverFenix
What the heck, I thought the internet was supposed to be getting easier to use for the lay person. I need to make a squeeze page for someone and it now appears that all the simple services that just used to be cgi forms are now $30/month services that generate a single page to collect an email address. There are no free options that work that I've found. Being able to collect someones email on a front page something that was solved like two decades ago, what kind of absurd regression is this.
Cheap wordpress site+landing page theme imo
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08-29-2015 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
You guys already know about this secret path to google employment?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/08/goo...lands-man-job/
It's actually a decent idea by Google because engineers use their site to search for stuff and they probably have a pretty good sense of knowledge what an engineer for an open spot for them would be interested in.

Pretty proactive recruiting.
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08-29-2015 , 01:57 PM
It's pretty creepy
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08-29-2015 , 02:00 PM
Not creepier than displaying other targeted adds imo
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08-30-2015 , 08:14 AM
I don't remember who had that awesome thread on their lazy coworker, but I could really use an update.
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08-31-2015 , 01:05 AM
I believe he stopped posting because he was scared of getting outed. What a pussy.
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08-31-2015 , 02:07 AM
I recall that a mod told him to consider closing it because the chance of it being sent to whomever it was about or something like that.

Sort of confuses me to why care, if person finds out. If the person just goofs off on reddit all day at work, he isn't going to pretend to be some guru programmer and have feelings hurt by thread. If anything, it most likely would be a wakeup call to goof off; he isn't doing anything worth the value that he is getting paid.

Yet, I think the awkwardness that OP may have to deal with, every day knowing that goof off knows what he thinks about him, would be a reason to close it.
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08-31-2015 , 08:44 AM
Hey, I don't care if he closes the thread, but I would still like periodic updates for those of us who remember the thread. Random internet updates would be a lot harder to place than an entire thread with details about the workplace.
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08-31-2015 , 10:12 AM
What is the new hotness for UI frameworks? I've been looking at http://semantic-ui.com/ which seems nice but LESS is a little troubling. That's so 2010.
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