The morons on the creative team at my work have now decided that the "button within a button" paradigm is okay – since Apple is doing it too. Lazy complicated UI ftw. Just explain with an overlay. We need an overlay to explain all the overlays that are about to come every time we release a new feature.

I especially love the button on iTunes that either shows me what's in my iPhone, or ejects my iPhone from the drive. I click the eject button first about 100% of the time – since it seems to be calling me to action.

I also love that it's like a seven step process to get photos from my iPhone onto my Mac and into some kind of useful directory.

I'm going to be found in 10 years collecting my urine in jars and babbling into a shaving mug about bad UI.

I was actually aiming at the former case, getting it onto the machine on which it runs.

Current workflow is Python to XML to JSON, which is parsed then visualized. Was hoping to get the parsed JSON back into Python to run more detailed analysis. I had tried console.log() just because I don't have much experience.

If there's no easy way to get the JSON data back onto the machine, then I'll just parse it earlier in the workflow. Would've been nice to have it in JSON though, as I really like that format.

So I think the only good way to do that is to have the browser treat it like a file download where it's triggered by user interaction, like clicking a link.

In HTML5, it looks like you can do this fairly directly. I wasn't aware of this feature

The old fashioned way would be to have the browser just generate a new request to the server and have the server respond with the right headers to trigger the save dialog, and with the JSON as content. The HTTP headers are

Content-Type: application/json
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="filename.json"
Content-Length: fileSizeInBytes

Cool, that'll work well. Thanks.

I searched for this "button within a button" paradigm, but apparently I am not allowed to be blessed with knowledge since I'm not in the exclusive Apple club.

It does sound terrible, though. Is this specifically targeted towards people with size 4 fingers?

It's basically when you have a large button or clickable area, then you put a small icon within that which does something completely different. I'd post a screenshot but I'm travelling and on my phone.

I wonder if Apple is consciously ****ing with everyone else who blindly follows them on all their design stuff – since they know they're Apple so they can get away with it - but few others can.

It's not all that bad if you have good aim...

p gross imo

well i mean it looks good (an extra border around the eject symbol would be more cluttered and uglier) but functionality-wise i fully understand and endorse suzzer's rage.

The skeumorphs looks out of place among all that text. The button on the right should be "Eject" instead and that thing on the left should say whatever it is supposed to be doing...

Yea, that sucks terribly.

I can see it being a little confusing, since you haven't had to push a button to eject an idevice for years, but the use of it becomes pretty apparent the first time you push it and it brings up the contents of the device. "Skeumrophs" seems a little harsh for an icon representing a real thing. I don't mind Apple pushing the UI language forward since they are better at it than most.

Except I always accidentally push the eject button first because for some reason it pulls me to it – when I don't mean to eject. I'm never thinking "oh I need to eject my USB iPhone connection". So the button feels like a call to get into the iPhone to me. Really annoying.

It's also literally the only reason I ever launch iTunes – and they do a damn good job of hiding the one reason most people launch it. That may be by design. When there's a good reason for screwing up the user interface, i.e. to make more money, that tilts me much less than just plain stupidity.

That's the most brilliant strategy ever! We'll cleverly group an action you can do on a gadget on the same button to open the gadget so people will have to spend more time in our media player. If they spend more time in the media player they will undoubtedly spend more money in another part of the media app that they have to actually open! ??? Profit!

And what's worse is you don't really have to ever plug your idevice into a computer anymore!

That's pretty paranoid Suzzer.

What kinds of people work as UI designers at big companies these days? A lot of what I see in web UI design is generic graphic design combined with random fashionable UI concepts incoherently put together. UI design done by graphic designers who don't understand UI design is just as bad as UI design done by programmers who don't understand UI design. It just looks prettier.

For any project where custom graphic design isn't a dominant factor, I'd much rather have a front-end HTML/CSS/Javascript developer/UI-designer hybrid than a graphic-designer/UI-designer hybrid, assuming the project isn't big enough to require a dedicated usability/UI/UX expert. I'm not even sure if you can be great at UI design within a given technological stack without having a fairly deep understanding of the available tools and limitations.

Having a dynamic page created by someone on Photoshop and having a programmer chop it up is akin to asking a painter to draft an automobile and letting the line-worker figure out how to fix all the issues and derive the intended outcome.

Art != Art.

irt the skeumorph comment. Apple is being hailed for bringing flat to mobile and eschewing icons in favor of text. It is a bit jarring to see the example above.

You do to get pictures off it. For some reason, sync only works one way. Riddle me why that might be if not to steer users into godawful iPhoto?

Also **** the cloud. I don't want Apple turning all my **** over to the govt at the slightest arm-twist.

Our designers understand the limitations fairly well – as long as there's someone experienced on the project to steer and guide them. What most of them lack imo is good UI/UX instincts. A lot of that you can't teach.

Also they're way too far up Apple's ass. We joke that we have a "Thunderbolt – first" responsive design process. They tried to get us to custom-build an iPhone style drop-down picker for Android. The sad thing is, if they get ahold of a newbie development team, that **** actually gets built (and sucks) at huge effort.

Obviously a lot of that is on the development side for not tracking projects better. I am one of two front-end devs with enough experience to know what we can push back on, and we are both massively over-worked.

I'm a broke sophomore going for a computer science major. I've got a good job (good hours, they work around my school schedule, and i get 12/hr) but I have been getting a lot of school emails recently about internships, and some look pretty cool. I'm wondering if i should do an internship this summer or just work my job this summer. How valuable is an internship + cs batch degree vs just a cs batch degree (once i graduate)?

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/11/newegg/

I'm using Personna reds. Feather were my #2 pick but the Personna's are just perfect so I got a huge pack that'll last me like two years

+1 can't wait for everyone following Apple on this.

Good programming internships are worth their weight in gold. Often lead to follow up jobs as well. You'll have to shop a bit and find one that sounds really interesting and fun. Just doing one to have it on your CV is worthless but treating it as summer school and soaking up all you can learn = gooooood
It's particularly useful for the skills you pick up on the go (agile practices, coding standards, exposure to how bugfixing/testing are handled etc.)

Go for the internship w/o a doubt.

No love for the free iPhoto either? Might our standards be a wee bit high? I suppose using Dropbox is out of the question as well since they won't stand up to as much "govt arm-twisting" as Apple would? The auto upload of photos sticks a copy of all your photos in your Dropbox folder.

So there are two pretty easy ways to get photos off your iPhone or iPad without having to connect it to your computer, you just don't want to use them.