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Possible to build a structure for privacy? Possible to build a structure for privacy?

01-14-2023 , 01:05 PM
Lets say a human wants privacy and all other humans want to spy on her.
But they are staying away and spying, not stopping what she does.
What could she build to ensure herself privacy?
(Lets assume she has unlimited resources and building supplies)

She wants to be able to not be seen or heard by another human, but still be able to scream and move around.

I was thinking she could make a settlement on mars but that could be viewed by telescopes and satellites.
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01-14-2023 , 06:25 PM
The end of privacy is envitable and only a matter of time I believe. I'm like a broken record so I'll give a book recommendation this last time if I may be so bold. The transparent society' by David Brin.
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01-14-2023 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MacOneDouble
The end of privacy is envitable and only a matter of time I believe. I'm like a broken record so I'll give a book recommendation this last time if I may be so bold. The transparent society' by David Brin.
If that's the case, lets let the people on top become transparent first
(lol in ur dreams bro)

Defeatism is just one option! Another option might be a nested series of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage

If I might be so bold, check out On Liberty by John Stuart Mill
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01-15-2023 , 02:33 AM
What about just a steel building inside a steel building and an emp blast with a mile radius?
I mean I'd assume the military already knows about all this stuff and how to build these, no?
How much length does the military go to and what success does the military find in keeping its sights and sounds unseen and unheard?

edit: yeaaaaah, for their top-secrete planning bunkers they use concrete dont they. Its like wifi doesn't penetrate concrete for **** right? lolz
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01-15-2023 , 08:04 AM
Go to Broken Hill, buy an old mine site and build underground.
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01-15-2023 , 08:34 AM
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Go to Broken Hill, buy an old mine site and build underground.
So youre saying in the future there will be a race of super-human crab-people that went underground to be left alone?
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01-15-2023 , 09:35 AM
Lets say some robot race started taking over the planet and we couldn't beat them, I guess we would try to hide underground?
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01-15-2023 , 03:48 PM
Come on yall hep me brainstorm here
I'm sorry for being rude! I'll try not to be
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01-15-2023 , 05:24 PM
Join Club 33.
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01-15-2023 , 08:42 PM
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all other humans want to spy on her.
1. Do you mean literally every other human is aware of her existence, her current location, and is committed to spying on her?

2. How much time and resources are all the other people willing to commit to maintain this spying operation?

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But they are staying away and spying, not stopping what she does.
3. What do you mean staying away? Physically? Are they not allowed to physically follow her around? Do they have to maintain a certain specified distance? Are they not allowed to physically enter her property/vehicle?

4. Are they trying to not let the target become aware that she's the singular target of a massive worldwide spying opertion? Or do they not care if she knows? Or does she already know?

Last edited by krunic; 01-15-2023 at 08:47 PM.
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01-16-2023 , 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by krunic
1. Do you mean literally every other human is aware of her existence, her current location, and is committed to spying on her?

2. How much time and resources are all the other people willing to commit to maintain this spying operation?
1. No. Lets assume its a hunt, like a prison break
2. Police resources

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3. What do you mean staying away? Physically? Are they not allowed to physically follow her around? Do they have to maintain a certain specified distance? Are they not allowed to physically enter her property/vehicle?

4. Are they trying to not let the target become aware that she's the singular target of a massive worldwide spying opertion? Or do they not care if she knows? Or does she already know?
3. Shes in a different country than the spyers
4. Shes really hot
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01-16-2023 , 02:01 AM
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3. Shes in a different country than the spyers
So she's alone in an entire country, and everyone else on earth is remotely spying on her? In that case having "unlimited resources and building materials" is rather useless unless this woman knows how to build things like elaborate house-sized faraday cages. She's going to have to kill/gather all her own food and water and use whatever existing structures are around. Which means the drones with HD cameras buzzing around her trying to get into position for the perfect angle to look down her shirt are probably going to be the least of her worries.
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01-16-2023 , 07:35 AM
Cleavage drones
Okay so if you are on your own, head underground.
She's in a different country but not by herself.

Like when Putin talks, is he worried about being heard by Americans? In his own house? In his shower? In his office?
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01-16-2023 , 12:14 PM
In the op you said:

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a human wants privacy and all other humans want to spy on her.
Then you said:

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3. Shes in a different country than the spyers
Therefore, she must be the only human in the country.
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01-16-2023 , 12:27 PM
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Like when Putin talks, is he worried about being heard by Americans? In his own house? In his shower? In his office?
Any smart world leader should be constantly worried about being surveilled by foreign governments, terrorist groups, opposing political parties, and random nutters, and should take any and all necessary countersurveillance measures all the time.

I'm not at all an expert in this area, but I think its reasonable to assume that the greatest spying threats these days for a world leader (or anyone) would be having your electronic communications intercepted via the internet. Getting some kind of spyware installed on Putin's phone or laptop would be a heck of a lot easier than gaining physical access to his office or shower and being able to place cameras/microphones around without them being discovered.

Hacking can be outsourced easily. There are companies that do this exact thing as their entire business model.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSO_Group

Last edited by krunic; 01-16-2023 at 12:35 PM.
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01-16-2023 , 01:42 PM
Dang bro that post slapped hard didnt it
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01-16-2023 , 06:20 PM
Did you start this thread as a way to get some tips on creative/extreme ways to protect your privacy? If so I can give you some links.

Otherwise I think the only semi-reasonable solution for our hypothetical hot hero honey is to dig an underground bunker with no electronics of any kind, dont ever try to communicate with anyone else, dont ever leave, and live like that for the rest of her lonely paranoid life. Which probably no one would actually do if put in that situation.
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01-16-2023 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by krunic
Did you start this thread as a way to get some tips on creative/extreme ways to protect your privacy? If so I can give you some links.

Otherwise I think the only semi-reasonable solution for our hypothetical hot hero honey is to dig an underground bunker with no electronics of any kind, dont ever try to communicate with anyone else, dont ever leave, and live like that for the rest of her lonely paranoid life. Which probably no one would actually do if put in that situation.
Yeah I get the feeling I'm being spied on a lot.
I've caught a lot of people doing it to me in the past.
I've found cameras in my bedroom, window peepers, stalkers, etc
I would do it for a couple years if I had food and water and my guitar.
I start threads b/c I think about stuff up in the air and down in the earth.
The links would be greatly appreciated but I cant keep my mouth shut when I'm on these meds.
Maybe the reason I feel I'm being spied on is b/c im exposing myself.
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01-16-2023 , 11:01 PM
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The links would be greatly appreciated but I cant keep my mouth shut when I'm on these meds.
What meds are you taking?

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Maybe the reason I feel I'm being spied on is b/c im exposing myself.
Well, yeah, flashing your junk to people on the street will tend to cause the legal authorities to want to spy on you, or even lock you in a room. I would suggest not doing that. They're called private parts for a reason.
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01-16-2023 , 11:07 PM
Here are some resources to get you started indulging your paranoia:

Book: https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Priva.../dp/B09W78GW2T
Podcast: https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html
YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Techlore/videos
This is a site with good recs for privacy focused software: https://www.privacyguides.org/tools/
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01-17-2023 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by krunic
Here are some resources to get you started indulging your paranoia:

Book: https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Priva.../dp/B09W78GW2T
Podcast: https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html
YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@Techlore/videos
This is a site with good recs for privacy focused software: https://www.privacyguides.org/tools/
Idk now I feel bad about it. Its like, the only reason I feel I need to privacy is to hide from people in power so as not to be abused. But I feel like the people in power want privacy so as to abuse people. But that book looks like its directed to the one and not the other group of people.
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01-17-2023 , 01:15 AM
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Idk now I feel bad about it. Its like, the only reason I feel I need to privacy is to hide from people in power so as not to be abused. But I feel like the people in power want privacy so as to abuse people. But that book looks like its directed to the one and not the other group of people.
I've read the book. The vast majority of the techniques in it can be used by nearly anyone. Privacy requires more of an investment of time and effort, not of money or power.
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