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Originally Posted by nek777
LOL ... Why the aggression bro?
I actually thought it was going to be an interesting discussion. High expectations dashed upon the rocks of reality.
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Anyhow, yeah ... It does seem as though something was needed to allow the idea (no definite ontological being of "Chuck") to come through , so the whole drifting away scenario gets fabricated. I wouldn't agree that there was anything pathological though... Seems well enough integrated.
Dissociation isn't necessarily pathological. It is a useful skill to have. Apparently some people don't come naturally to it.
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For the record, I don't think that this is the norm ... I think for the most part people integrate the idea of no-self or ego-death without "visions" or whatever.
Many people simply realize that they can (with a bit of practice) just pay attention to what is going on passively and without emotion.
Many other people simply realize that they can control their state of consciousness to some extent.
Anyone who has ever drank a beer or fallen asleep or woken up or stood up too fast or read a good book or had sex (or or or) should realize that altered states of consciousness are mundane and part of normal every day life. Amusing and potentially enjoyable, but mundane.
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I would also say that the use of "ego" in regard to these eastern philosophical things is a bad thing and confuses the issue.
Yeah, calling something that it "no-self" or "ego-death" or whatever is a bit dramatic.