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04-17-2014 , 06:25 PM
I erased the bit where you failed to demonstrate that it was Nash who created bitcoin.

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Originally Posted by newguy1234
Well its solved, but of course I can't present evidence we don't accept.
I "accept" the evidence. The evidence is quite clear. It shows that you don't understand Nash's ideal money, nor do you understand bitcoin.

You've fabricated a few bits of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, wildly misinterpreted it, while ignoring the huge mountain of evidence against your thesis.

Again, if you like Dr. Nash, the way to demonstrate this is to understand his work. It is not to make up stories about him. That is rude and mean-spirited.
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04-18-2014 , 08:59 PM
Just found this thread... Moon stuff is good, I like aliens. Do you guys know about the aricebo message? it's a crop circle meant to answer something carl sagan sent out decades ago. here's a link to a vid..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW3NW7OIWDw

also re: crop circles... here's pictures of what happens to the wheat that is flattened, you can see it's not folded, but stretched:




I liked watching this.. supposed footage of crop circles being made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SJvVW8s_Oc

another vid of ufos hovering for a long time, also making noises! then the second half of the vid is closeups of the wheat on the ground, which is braided and weaved and much more complicated than what stomping on a board could do. Worth watching!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1hM8mcoF-g
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04-19-2014 , 01:35 AM
It's a feast every time crop circles pop up in the debunking thread. Really makes my day.

They have stepped it up though, making rain forest squares also, not fun anymore:


Last edited by plaaynde; 04-19-2014 at 01:49 AM.
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04-19-2014 , 02:07 PM
The more you buy the more you save!!!

What percentage of the population falls for that one.

Oh, wait - if you buy two; you get the second one FREE!

That changes everything.

Last edited by Zeno; 04-19-2014 at 02:31 PM.
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04-19-2014 , 06:22 PM
Something to keep in mind because it applies to some posters:


Green's Law of Debate: Anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about.
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04-19-2014 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeno
The more you buy the more you save!!!

What percentage of the population falls for that one.
50%

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Oh, wait - if you buy two; you get the second one FREE!

That changes everything.
75%
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04-19-2014 , 10:55 PM
i saw someone on one of the earlier pages talking about dark energy... here's a theory that is essentially debunking black holes and dark matter. it purports there exists a stronger field of electromagnetism than mainstream science subscribes to..

part one of three (with more to come)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI
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04-20-2014 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
i saw someone on one of the earlier pages talking about dark energy... here's a theory that is essentially debunking black holes and dark matter. it purports there exists a stronger field of electromagnetism than mainstream science subscribes to..

part one of three (with more to come)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EPlyiW-xGI
I haven't watched this yet, but any time you click a link and it leads to an hour long Youtube video that starts with the line "This Will Change The World" there's pretty much a 100% chance a drinking game is in order.

Let's do this.

Wild unsubstantiated claim presented as mainstream science - take a shot.

The word quantum misused - take a shot.

Pseudoscience presented as expert authority - take a shot.

Flashy graphics with 5 seconds of sound effects or silence - take a shot. Edit: I need to clarify, this is one shot per instance, not one shot per five seconds. We want to live through this.

30 seconds of rhetorical questions that will go unanswered - take a shot.

"Quantum Leap" used to describe a large distance or revolutionary discovery - **** it, take two shots.

Any others I should add before I fire up this bad boy?
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04-20-2014 , 01:22 PM
I quit watching when he started showing dome buildings around the world, including one with angels on fire, and talking about signs from God.
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04-20-2014 , 01:40 PM
Survivorman Les Stroud did 2 epsiodes where's he's up in remote Alberta looking for Bigfoot. It was kind of a let down because he didn't find one. He heard something return his whoop. He heard some other whoops that he couldn't identify as anything he's ever heard before. He kept feeling a deep sound or vibration. He heard something that sounded like rattling stones. He saw things that looked like big tracks that didn't belong to any known animal. And he saw trees bent over in a peculiar way which he reasoned couldn't have been caused by snow load or wind or human sawing. Some of these were sporadic and reminiscent of the way ancient man communicated with each other, and others looked like they were used to construct shelter. The guy he was with was completely convinced that Gigantapithicus (Bigfoot) exists and has some film footage supposedly showing moving Bigfoots which several experts have said is a fake, and a close up picture of a Bigfoot face that to me just looks like it could be a rock. But he says he was attacked by these things, and they threw stones at him. Les says he's a skeptic, but he admits there are things he can't explain up there, and he sounds like he's going to keep going back until he gets answers.
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04-20-2014 , 01:54 PM
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04-20-2014 , 02:31 PM
Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically,[e] although the quest for the historical Jesus has produced little agreement on the historical reliability of the Gospels and how closely the biblical Jesus reflects the historical Jesus.[19] Most scholars agree that Jesus was a Jewish rabbi from Galilee who preached his message orally,[20] was baptized by John the Baptist, and was crucified in Jerusalem on the orders of the Roman prefect, Pontius Pilate.[21] Scholars have constructed various portraits of the historical Jesus, which often depict him as having one or more of the following roles: the leader of an apocalyptic movement, Messiah, a charismatic healer, a sage and philosopher, or an egalitarian social reformer.[22] Scholars have correlated the New Testament accounts with non-Christian historical records to arrive at an estimated chronology of Jesus' life.

e In a 2011 review of the state of modern scholarship, Bart Ehrman wrote, "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees".[13] Richard A. Burridge states: "There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church's imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more".[14] Robert M. Price does not believe that Jesus existed, but agrees that this perspective runs against the views of the majority of scholars.[15] James D.G. Dunn calls the theories of Jesus' non-existence "a thoroughly dead thesis".[16] Michael Grant (a classicist) wrote in 1977, "In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary".[17] Robert E. Van Voorst states that biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of non-existence of Jesus as effectively refuted.[18][/sup]

-wiki


IOW, Bigfoot = non-existence of Jesus.
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04-20-2014 , 03:21 PM
Bigfoot coming from the skies

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04-20-2014 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceZ
I quit watching when he started showing dome buildings around the world, including one with angels on fire, and talking about signs from God.
you call that debunking?
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04-20-2014 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BruceZ
I quit watching when he started showing dome buildings around the world, including one with angels on fire, and talking about signs from God.
LOL right. Although you have to agree something felt fishy well in advance of that.
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04-20-2014 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by moo buckets
you call that debunking?
I call that saving time!

But just because i am curious i can fast forward too and see typical magnetic field games played that are nothing strange made out to be something more than it is. Real science doesnt look like mysticism masquerading for something more than it is.
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04-20-2014 , 10:02 PM
that's quite the extrapolation!
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04-21-2014 , 12:10 AM
Not saying anyone here isn't genuine, but you have to admit, posting 3+ hours of pseudoscience mumbo jumbo and then taking it as confirmation of validity when no one else bothers to suffer through it would be a pretty awesome way to troll someone.
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04-21-2014 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
Not saying anyone here isn't genuine, but you have to admit, posting 3+ hours of pseudoscience mumbo jumbo and then taking it as confirmation of validity when no one else bothers to suffer through it would be a pretty awesome way to troll someone.
It isn't a new technique, but it has been perfected recently.

It is just showing up and doing argumentum ad nauseum as the first move.

It can be parried with a simple "WTF?!?" Not exactly a KO, but it suffices.
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04-21-2014 , 04:01 AM
Got bored and skimmed it, jokes on me.

If you take out the random pointless graphics with no voice over or relevance, and talked at a normal pace instead of the super slow speech reserved for drug addicts and faux movie sensei mentors, there's probably something like 15 minutes of content.

Given that part 3 apparently ends with him turning to the camera and doing his best laughing smile / troll face, I'm pretty confident this is a joke.

I'd be in rage mode if I'd actually sat through any of that.
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04-21-2014 , 12:38 PM
At 5:22 in the video the guy says: "I believe...", can't see anything interesting can follow after that, stopped watching.

The intro was somewhat good, like a B-film, with all the cliches of "disclosure".

He loses it a bit before four minutes. All others are wrong, he's right.

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04-22-2014 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
I haven't watched this yet, but any time you click a link and it leads to an hour long Youtube video that starts with the line "This Will Change The World" there's pretty much a 100% chance a drinking game is in order.
Let's do this.
Wild unsubstantiated claim presented as mainstream science - take a shot.
The word quantum misused - take a shot.
Pseudoscience presented as expert authority - take a shot.
Flashy graphics with 5 seconds of sound effects or silence - take a shot. Edit: I need to clarify, this is one shot per instance, not one shot per five seconds. We want to live through this.
30 seconds of rhetorical questions that will go unanswered - take a shot.
"Quantum Leap" used to describe a large distance or revolutionary discovery - **** it, take two shots.
Any others I should add before I fire up this bad boy?


Change "take a shot" to take a drink of beer and people might be able to play long enough to finish the video.
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04-22-2014 , 11:45 AM
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Change "take a shot" to take a drink of beer and people might be able to play long enough to finish the video.
One drink is not enough. I could maybe "watch" the video if having enough for passing out/falling asleep.

Seriously. If somebody paid me $150 I would watch all of it. Would pay tax for it too.
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04-22-2014 , 10:51 PM
so no one's watched the primer fields yet?
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04-22-2014 , 11:49 PM
If i tell you x=3 so y that is also a letter must be 3 plus 3 is the religious trinity so it must mean that x and y are from heavens and there is a picture of them in Vatican do you think you should continue to watch?
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