I got mugged by an atheist.

Complete and utter bull****, actually. But, whatever helps you sleep at night.

That's a good anecdote, hah.

You can almost judge the strength of a normative system by how gracefully its adherents age. "[T]he final tragic triumph of human cogitation: I am because I die." (Nabokov, Ada, or Ardor).

Fair enough, you can call yourself whatever you want by your own standard.

You dont have to fear. Just accept Jesus at the end and ask for forgiveness. Prisoners on death row do it all the time.

TITS OR GTFO!

First, I am a Christian.

I have been thinking about the same thing lately. I believe most Christians that I have seen, heard, watched..etc. have an entirely terrible ability to teach or explain their belief in detail. But should they have all the answers to the questions non-believers present?

Maybe they should, why wouldn't you make absolutely sure that you are right since you have to "just believe" in something there is "no proof for"?

Then again atheists are believers, they believe/trust that what the scientists and scholars is true and is logical.

It is obviously a matter of who/what to believe either way, unless you dedicate your life to learn and study on your own, without assuming anything.



For me, it comes down to a few simple points.

1) Good=unselfish, Bad=selfish (Which is Christianity)

2) There is no proof or law or whatever in science to create or destroy energy; therefore something supernatural had to create the energy at some point

I know I've heard of things like why is nothing the default, and complicated stuff that I don't know about..or care to because of my last point

3) As long as Christianity is working perfectly for me, why should I have to prove it is right, why not use it until it fails me?



This is probably simplistic to most of you, but I think the best answers for important problems are simple.

But why is it Christianity? There are many millions of people who realize such basic moral principles without needing Christianity to tell them so.

But why does this suggest Christianity over any other supernatural explanation?

No one is questioning your right to choose it or saying you're obligated to prove it; the OP is just asking the interesting question of WHY, specifically, you choose it over any other belief system (particularly considering the apparent problems with the Bible).

Absolutely true. For me it's a lot easier to have an authority tell me what to do when I am on life tilt than trying to figure it out on my own, spending time and energy thinking about it.


It doesn't. This is my thought process on "Is there a God?"


The question was indeed interesting, I agree. Thanks OP.

that pretty much sums up everything regarding this thread. why christianity for you? cause you were told so. why islam for this other person? cause he was told so.

bravo

I do not believe specifically in christianity because I was told so, I am very passionate in being an individual and a leader, I take offense to this.

Judging by your "bravo" comment it seems as if you are looking for someone to prove to you why a particular religion over another..

If you genuinely wanted to find out why islam, christianity, etc.. why would you come to 2p2 for answers?

so if i genuinely want to find out why...i cant discuss on 2+2?

secondly, i never even asked a question. i already know why most christians are christians, and why most muslims are muslims. they were brought up that way. this is a simple statistical fact. those who switch, mostly do it for convenience (marriage, etc.)

This whole time I thought you were OP, haha sorry. I meant you might get better results looking for answers in other places rather than 2p2..but I know you already have the answers.

Out of curiosity, what do you believe?

Superman, in case you didn't know, you're in the atheist sandbox. You won't find very many Christians here.

It's all good

regarding what? thats a very open ended question

So you're admitting that you actually haven't thought critically about being a christian because it requires too much time and energy? Seriously? This also begs the question... because ok, you want an authority figure to tell you what to do. I think thats ridiculous but ok, i can get on board with it. The problem is, why do you listen to CHRISTIAN authorities instead of MUSLIM authorities.

This also begs the question. The very purpose of this thread was to question WHY your thought process on the question "is there a god" leads you to christianity. You have quite literally answered by saying, "this is my thought process"

I remain disappointed that not only has nobody provided a sufficient answer, but nobody has replied an answer at all. Every reply has begged the question. Please try again.

OP, before I respond, is there any specific reason you're asking these questions on 2p2 rather than getting answers from people who devote their lives to studying this?

Yes, there is. Not 2p2 specifically, but some soft of informal religious area. I want to know make makes the average Christian associate with christianity. What makes the average person tick i guess. I dont use the term "average" in a condescending way, i guess you could replace it with "moderate"

I do not think there is any answer I can give you that would be satisfactory to you (or anyone else that would ask the same).

What I do is test my beliefs daily. I continually answer life's challenges with Christian values and ideals. Until they fail me or I discover a better answer to a challenge in any given situation..why would I doubt it or feel that I have to prove it? (Does this kinda make sense or no?)

Anything I tell you though, can be questioned with (in a sense) being "brainwashed". This is why I do not think I'll be able to help you much..I most likely lack credibility in your eyes..as I would perceive the same if I were you.

I call myself a Christian because I believe that Jesus came to earth to redeem humanity and I attempt to follow his teachings.

As to if im intelligent or not - im sure it could be debated but whats the point?

what about the Christians with IQ's over 140? what percentile agrees with OP? really, for a self proclaimed mathematical genius, i really expected a much more scientific approximation.

unless of course, approximating the percentile of Christians who agree with the OP is not a test of mathematical genius, but more a question of pyschological genius... hmmmmmm

.... a psychological genius that allowed brandi hawbraker to sully his reputation beyond reason with promises of nekky pictures....

...nope, does not compute. DS's approximation is wrong.

next question please

didnt you know that madnak is a complete authority as to which religious teachings are the most beneficial to humanity? his comprehension of the human psychy is beyond measure. the most prudent course of action is to keep quiet and wait for madnak to prescribe a course of behaviour. blah blah blah.
i could care less if some find no use for the commandments in their own existance, but to make quasi-authoritative proclamations with no validation other than they are in correlation with your own viewpoints seems pointless.