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10-23-2015 , 10:59 AM

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BrianTheMick2

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Any condition involving neurochemicals will not be detected by blood tests, xrays, brain scans.

A quick google of "fMRI depression" could possibly correct your understanding.

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10-23-2015 , 12:12 PM

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I remember looking at fMRI theory and slides half a decade ago and ruminating (privately, I thought) about the benefits.

The fine granularity possible makes not just disease detectable, but with sophistication and increasingly accurate markers and repetition of data points...

You get full personality outcomes. Detect criminal/recidivist traits while the baby sleeps in the hospital nursery.

Just in case.

Last edited by Kristofero; 10-23-2015 at 12:13 PM. Reason: We do, Unc. But the postmortal [censored] is the problem.

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10-26-2015 , 05:14 PM

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I know someone who legitimately has fibro, its legitimate illness, there was no making up the pain she was feeling. One of the most normal person I know besides her illness.

But she's visited pain clinics with other "fibro" victims and the majority of them looked like ******s with a laundry list of other illnesses, half of them looked plain unhealthy physically.

I guess I agree with vhawk on this.

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10-26-2015 , 08:12 PM

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I came across a link today which I thought may enrich the discussion on empathy and 'invisible' pain.

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/26/960171...ention-hotline

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10-27-2015 , 01:01 PM

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I also know someone who has been diagnosed* with fibromyalgia. She is obese and suffers from depression. This definitely makes her unsympathetic to some but I think her pain is real.

* It's my understanding that fibromyalgia is not an actual thing but rather a catch-all when the underlying problem can't be found.

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11-01-2015 , 11:43 PM

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I'd try mycelins, experimenting with microdosages of psilocybin within methocarbamol/codeine mixes. Maybe introduce nicotine or substitute it for codeine.

Yeah, it's the catch-all issue compounded by an epidemic of opiate addiction.

Identify, trial, remove opiates out of the picture completely and you've isolated fibromylagia.

Perhaps this is annoyance but they should just legalize heroin as long as you turn licensed addicts into sprawling blood banks.

Last edited by Kristofero; 11-01-2015 at 11:44 PM. Reason: Easier said than done.

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11-03-2015 , 12:19 AM

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Yeah I mean there is something there and pain is poorly understood. Clearly not all are faking it. But many, certainly the majority, see an easily exploitable situation and take advantage. I don't think there's a way to combat those without making life even more miserable for those like your friend. At least for now. I'm sure a test for endogenous opioid products or something like that will eventually be found

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11-03-2015 , 03:48 AM

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I seem to recall about half a decade ago, Army R & D were working on very localized neutralization of pain...

Much like micro-epidurals. This would be at about roughly midway thru the second Iraqi conflict/beginnings of the Afghan deployment.

Wonder what became of that though.

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