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03-17-2010 , 03:12 PM
So the Eisenstein Criterion states that if f(x) is a non constant polynomaial of degree n with integer coefficents and there exists some prime p such that p divides every constant of f(x) but p^2 does not divide the constant term then f(x) is irreducible in Q[x]. I understand this but then in the examples it states:
x^4 + x^3 + x^2 +x +1 is irreducible because by the Eisenstein criterion (x+1)^4 + (x+1)^3 + (x+1)^2 + (x+1) +1= x^4 +5x^3 +10x^2 +10x +5 is irreducible. Somehow this is supposed to be obvious to the reader but I have no idea why the seconds function being irreducible implies that the first one is. Any thoughts or help?
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03-17-2010 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by nvman21
So the Eisenstein Criterion states that if f(x) is a non constant polynomaial of degree n with integer coefficents and there exists some prime p such that p divides every constant of f(x) but p^2 does not divide the constant term then f(x) is irreducible in Q[x]. I understand this but then in the examples it states:
x^4 + x^3 + x^2 +x +1 is irreducible because by the Eisenstein criterion (x+1)^4 + (x+1)^3 + (x+1)^2 + (x+1) +1= x^4 +5x^3 +10x^2 +10x +5 is irreducible. Somehow this is supposed to be obvious to the reader but I have no idea why the seconds function being irreducible implies that the first one is. Any thoughts or help?
If the latter polynomial had a root x, and thus was reducible, then the former polynomial would have a root (x-1), and thus would be reducible, and vice-versa.

EDIT: er, this doesn't cover it being reducible into quadratic, etc. factors, so there's a little more to it, don't remember off the top of my head
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03-17-2010 , 04:22 PM
I'm pretty sure the same reasoning explains why we can't have quadratic or higher order factors in one but not the other, also. If we had (x^2-2) as a factor in one, then ((x-1)^2-2)=(x^2-2x-1) would be a factor in the other, and similarly for any other ways to factor the polynomial. Since an irrational plus or minus an integer is still irrational, this also can't produce new rational roots which could be factored out. (for example, if we did the shift y=x+2^.5 then we could have this problem)
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03-17-2010 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PJA
If the latter polynomial had a root x, and thus was reducible, then the former polynomial would have a root (x-1), and thus would be reducible, and vice-versa.

EDIT: er, this doesn't cover it being reducible into quadratic, etc. factors, so there's a little more to it, don't remember off the top of my head
Right. If Q(x)=P(x+1) and Q is irreducible, but P is reducible, then P(x)=R(x)S(x), where R and S are not units, so R(x+1) and S(x+1) are not units, and Q=R(x+1)S(x+1), a contradiction.
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