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05-18-2010 , 06:43 PM

#8876

kitaristi0

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Because it's a penalty kick and it's supposed to be an advantage, I just don't see why the attacker shouldn't be allowed to approach the kick in whatever way he chooses.

Paradoxically allowing the feint before the kick would actually make goalkeepers better since (one would assume) they would not dive as often knowing that the fbtk is an option, and studies/game theory show that goalkeepers dive way too often and would do well to just stand in the middle of the goal a whole lot more.

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05-18-2010 , 06:48 PM

#8877

DemonOfTheFall

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Originally Posted by kitaristi0

The point is that those who can feint a kick are virtually unexploitable. There's nothing to stop them leaning back a little - the referee won't catch the extra power they generate.

In effect, they get two shots at a penalty, which is not in the spirit of the game theory decisions we find compelling.

I don't see how changing the dynamic entirely before a major tournament can be a good thing.

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05-18-2010 , 06:51 PM

#8878

Badminton

Formerly Moronchad the King

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4,710

ffs penalties

a striker shouldnt miss them anyway.

Saves are expected to be made sometimes.

I agree with the run up and blast it approach.

If you get them into the corner or above halfway in the goal, then it's some save for the keeper to make.

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05-18-2010 , 07:04 PM

#8879

derwipok

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a striker shouldnt miss them anyway.

That's a cool statement, but in reality only 76% of penalties are converted

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05-18-2010 , 07:28 PM

#8880

Badminton

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If England do win the world cup, half of the retailers in England will go bust from their ****ty promotions of...

"if England win the world cup, get your xxxx for free"

gtfo

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05-18-2010 , 07:33 PM

#8881

valenzuela

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Originally Posted by Ra_Z_Boy

Wait he needs to state his credentials now yet you can just spout whatever nonsense you want regarding Spain? LOL

Im spouting subjetive stuff , beliefs that I have which may or may not be true, what he said is objective and can be tested empiracally.
I belief in some kinda karma that gives edges to teams, its really hard to explain logically, the more rational explanation I can come up with is that I believe the spanish shirt has a negative placebo effect while the brazilian shirt has a positive placebo effect.

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05-18-2010 , 08:24 PM

#8882

Mejis

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Originally Posted by DemonOfTheFall

No "fake" stopping for World Cup Penalties. Thank god.

http://fourfourtwo.com/news/worldcup...2/default.aspx

I want to see a press release for encroachment and shirt-tugging one time.

meh imo

Hope they will adress the shirt holding in the box again and obv the good old schwalbes.

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05-18-2010 , 08:27 PM

#8883

Ra_Z_Boy

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Originally Posted by DemonOfTheFall

No "fake" stopping for World Cup Penalties. Thank god.

http://fourfourtwo.com/news/worldcup...2/default.aspx

I want to see a press release for encroachment and shirt-tugging one time.

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Originally Posted by DemonOfTheFall

Actually fake stopping in the run up is still allowed. You aren't allowed to fake kick the ball now. Which almost no one did anyway. Apart from some Brazilian maniacs.

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Originally Posted by valenzuela

Ok so you are just an insane jibbering idiot. Good to know.

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05-18-2010 , 08:33 PM

#8884

ThaSaltCracka

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Originally Posted by valenzuela

lol are you marty in disguise?

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05-18-2010 , 09:45 PM

#8885

clowntable

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Originally Posted by valenzuela

You're also spouting that South American defenders are the best in the world. I'm pretty sure this can be tested empirically or simply ignored due to common sense

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05-18-2010 , 10:00 PM

#8886

valenzuela

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You're also spouting that South American defenders are the best in the world. I'm pretty sure this can be tested empirically or simply ignored due to common sense

I said they are the best in the world in defending Messi and I stand by that.

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05-18-2010 , 10:35 PM

#8887

clowntable

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You stand alone

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05-18-2010 , 11:17 PM

#8888

valenzuela

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In this forum? Of course I do.

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05-19-2010 , 12:03 AM

#8889

stakman1011

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Meh, I can sort of agree with what valenzuela is saying. I lived in Brazil for a while and there are definitely a whole lot of people who think there is some mystical voodoo **** about the Brazil team in WCs or whatever.

So if some poor kid from a favella really buys into the notion of the Brazil shirt being "magical" or whatever, who is to say that won't give him confidence and make him play better?

Self-fulfilling prophecies itt.

Edit: I'm not saying I believe it, or even that it's a significant factor, just that it COULD play a role.

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05-19-2010 , 01:38 AM

#8890

cashy

we have welbeck

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guys

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15.../#post19007467

25$ worldcup fantasy league

gogogoogogo!

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05-19-2010 , 02:21 PM

#8891

Ra_Z_Boy

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Ledley King in training ground appearance shocker.

http://www.football365.com/Gallery_D...162824,00.html

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05-19-2010 , 02:34 PM

#8892

kingweed

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Crouches legs are ridiculous in those photos.

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05-19-2010 , 02:35 PM

#8893

Blue Celery

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Originally Posted by kingweed

Crouches legs are ridiculous

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05-19-2010 , 03:02 PM

#8894

DemonOfTheFall

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Lol crouch

Lol Carra

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05-19-2010 , 03:30 PM

#8895

DemonOfTheFall

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Final Argentina squad: Players cut were

Lavezzi (Napoli)
Datolo (Olympiakos)
Sosa (Estudiantes)
Mercier (Argentinos)
Blanco (Lanus)
Insaurralde (Newell’s)
Coloccini (Newcastle)

One too many strikers stayed on imo (guess who). Super-glad Coloccini was cut and happy Pastore stayed in.

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05-19-2010 , 03:35 PM

#8896

derwipok

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It's so funny that there are a 2nd league player and a 50 year old striker playing in Argentina on the squad while 2 who are in the first 11 of a Serie A + Coppa Italia winner + CL finalist can watch the World Cup at home.