I have no idea if they are accurate or not but I saw a couple charts on twitter.

One was the worst defensive players in the league (it had a metric but I did not note what it was). Kelsey Plum was worst, the "top" 3 all play for LA and the only Fever player to make the list was Kelsey Mitchell.

Also saw offensive and defensive game scores for the Fever vs. Portland. Aaliyah Boston was a positive on offense but was by far the worst on defense. Woof. Clark was actually "best" on defense, though she was still negative.

Sounds like a really elegant metric

Sounds like you're coming around a little that something weird is happening how coach White seems to do evrything opposite of what makes sense when it comes to Caitlin. Last game Caitlin comes out like the best player in the league 3 beautiful sharp fast passes and hit a mid-range jumper. She was respeonsible for all 8 points scored and they have only played 3 minutes and 30 seconds. White's like no no can't have this Caitlin superstar stuff happening time to take her out and onto the bench. White claims we always take Caitlin out there. Why? Who takes out their best player after 3 minutes of the game being started?

Also like you said she leaves her out on an island against against the best and sometimes 2nd best offensive players who are fast and can drive who are targeting her. I'm not a defensive guru but White is supposed to be. But maybe double the top offensive player whose in front of Caitlin? I don't know the exact strategy but defenive coaches do. But White would rather leave her so she gets into foul trouble so she has an excuse to put her on the bench. Then so she can chew her out on the bench and humiliate her even more. Btw the whole team is playing terrible defense. Why is Caitlin singled out?

And we will never come out if White is deliberately trying to humiliate Caitlin. It will end with White being fired but we will never ne told anything other than it wasn't working out. Caitlin haters will say Caitlin got White fired when she was doing a good job. Or Caitlin leaves. I don't think Caitlin realizes she's being played. White goes to the Indy 500 with Caitlin and acting like she loves Caitlin. But than the proof is on the court she's not in your corner Caitlin. She wants Caitlin to look like a small piece of the team that should be happy she gets carried by the bigger stars. And give the credit of this team to herself, Mitchell, and Boston. But herself, Mitchell, and Boston aren't as good as Caitlin so it's not working.

Btw i was watching the Pat McAfee show on tv today and they addressed the situation slightly. They are based out of Indianapolis. So the one guy has a fever hat on and says let Caitlin do whatever she want to, and if she wants to pout and not play defense who cares. Something lke that. All laughed and said no. They ae Caitlin fans and she's been on the show. But they were cleary protecting White in the situation making it look like all this drama is Caitlin's fault. Also i realized why Cheryl Miller trashed Caitlin on nbc. Her brother is Reggie Miller who was a superstar in indiana. So she's probably friends with White being White has been from there for a long time. Maybe same with Pat McAfee could be friendly with White. Pat and the crew were lighter in the criticism than Cheryl Miller was but niether pointed out what White did was wrong. It's all Caitlin's fault is the way they want it to look.

Anyone who watched that video and doesn't think White was in the wrong all i'd say is why wasn't she? Now all White's friends trying to protect White. Keep protecting her and you'll lose Caitlin. Caitlin may be so worn down and brainwashed by the mind games White's playing with her she probably thinks all this is her own(Caitlin herself) fault. White should apologize at her next press conference. Maybe she will, but usually she doesn't.

True. That's why the nonsense like Cheryl Miller stated that the Fever problem is defense and they are all poiting to you Caitlin. Mitchell is a terrible defender. Boston isn't good either. Caitlin i think leads the Fever in steals. The problem is the other team is targeting Caitlin over Mitchell probably because they don't like the attention she gets so want to humiliate her. And maybe coach White allows it to happen to Caitlin where if it was happening to Mitchell she might try to hide or protect Mitchell.

Btw Raven came in when White benched Caitlin and i think Raven fouled out. Raven is prolly a better defender than Caitlin at the moment. But this story that all the problems the Fever have is because of Caitlin is ridiculous. She's the only thing keeping it afloat if they allowed her to be Caitlin. I like Boston but they gave Boston a max contract but continues to miss layups. Mitchell hasn't been doing much. Raven had one very nice game. But besides that everyone is playing bad. Yes players are responsible for their play. When the whole team is playing bad people you start looking at the coaching. But because White has so many friends in the league everyone protects her and says it's all Caitlin's fault.

Against the Valkerie's the Fever had 2 chances to win or tie the game in the last seconds. Did they give the ball or set a screen for Caitlin to get an open shot? No, they go both times to Boston and she missed both.

Boston's screens for Caitlin are not good either as she's not blocking the defender fully and they get through the screen.

Boston's gonna probably really good and i'm rooting for her. But she's not a finished product yet who dominates like a max player who does everything right. She makes alot of mistakes for somebody being paid the max.

yeah i watched the end of that valks game - the last one made sense, less than a second left, trying to give boston a toss it up and hope it bounces in seemed more realistic than hoping cc could get open and setup a clean shot

but the entire close everything was just letting cc get collapsed on with no real plan to take advantage of the fact that meant there'd be an open player - cunningham seems to be good at getting open in those spots for an easy bucket but nobody else seems to know how to respond when their teammate is double teamed at the 3pt line, probably because they've never once in their entire basketball lives had it happen before so they don't have an instinctual answer and the coach doesn't seem to want to coach that in them

Yeah on all of that. I agree the last one to Boston was a good look for so little time.

My bad. It was Paul Westhead, not Paul Westphal. Magic wanted the team better suited to his talents of being a fast break team where Westhead wanted the team centered on Kareem.

So similar situation where the coach didn't want to recognize Magic was the new franchise player and treated him more like a role player for kareem. Which was obviously wrong. But in White's situation she doesn't have a Kareem, and Caitlin's ceiling is even way higher than Magic's was, so White not recognizing that the team should be tailored around Caitlin's talent's makes it even WAY worse.

As expected White didn't apologize when asked today about the incident. She said it was a coaching moment. Like she's a rookie that needs to be chewed out by you right? And downplayed the whole thing.

Then they asked Caitlin about it and Caitlin had White's back. It's so sad Caitlin has been brainwashed by White. Why didn't the reporter ask did you feel humiliated when White screamed at you and singled you out then benched you? Nobody asked that.

Caitlin blames us for supporting her and feel her career has been being derailed. You think she'd not be so tone deaf that her fans have her back instead of mocking us and saying that we're making this stuff up. I like Caitlin but she's been brainwashed into the White's narrative that us fans shouldn't believe our lying eyes. Caitlin making me wonder if i was a fool to be her fan? Since she calls us fools and we should love Stephanie White and how she treats you. Still rooting for her but at every press conference i lose a little love for Caitlin.

It's sad Caitlin is being punked by all the media and her coaches and Caitlin acts like this is awesome. And we/fans should stop being dumb thinking it's not awesome. It's so disgusting to watch.

I almost want to root for Angel Reece now to make a mockery out of Caitlin on thursday after Caitlin's interview today. Then hope White screams at her some more then benches her again. Just so i can hear Caitlin say it's going perfectly and we're/fans are all dumb. Is this Stockholm syndrome we're watching?

If everything is going so well Caitlin and we're/your fans are so crazy to think things are hurting your career then why is the narrative now that you're a spoiled, whiny, and entitled diva that doesn't have the right to be a diva becasue you suck at basketball. You're the worse defensive player in basketball history and the Fever need to keep you on bench so then the Fever can succeed. That maybe better if Caitlin isn't in the league since her arguing with the refs and the coaches isn't a good look for little girls to see. That she's not a good role model. And she sucks at basketball anyway so why have her in the wnba? Does that sound like everything is great? How does Caitlin not see this narrative has been put on her and it's the fault of Stephanie White and the media? Wake up Caitlin!

??? I'm wrong?

What about? I didn't see Cheryl Miller go on national television and tell Caitlin to shut up and go in the corner away from the team becasue the big girls need to play basketball now. That this whole narrative is Caitlin's fault? Nobody is at fault other than Caitlin? That the narrative isn't that Caitlin is a spoiled entitled diva that the league is exhausted with? And that's she's doesn't want to play defense and whines to the refs and her coaches because she sucks at basketball and everything she whines about is her own fault?

Stephanie White hasn't been holding her back? White says her usual time to take Caitlin out is 3 minutes into after the game started? That's normal? Why doesn't she take out Mitchell after 3 minutes? She said she only took out Boston because she's on a minutes restriction. So that means otherwise she wouldn't be taken Boston out that early? So why only Caitlin gets taken out after 3 minutes? But White didn't take Boston out after 3 minutes ever before. And when Boston first came back she played boston far into the 4th quarter vs the same portland fire team when Caitlin didn't play when they were up 20. Makes you wonder why? Did she keep Boston in longer that day because she wanted to win by as much as possible to make it look like look how good we are when Caitlin doesn't play?

Why is the ordinary play for White is to take Caitlin out after 3 minutes into the game but not anyone else? Is Boston, Mitchell, Hull, and the rest of the team in better condition than a 24 year old young woman?

This is awesome

If Phil Jackson ever chewed out Michael Jordan then benched him and humiliated Jordan in front of the whole world on national television Jordan wouldn't play another game until Jackson was fired. And that would take 1 day. But Caitlin somehow doesn't see she's being humiliated. I'm embarrassed for her. I'm actually starting to wonder maybe Caitlin isn't good at basketball because Stephanie White and the media keeps showing us/ telling us that. Then Caitlin says White is right and Stephanie White has my back!

If White is right than that means you do suck at basketball Caitlin? I'm sorry but i thought you were better than being benched for a backup player? My bad. I over-estimated you. I thought you would be goat but now you told us the way White is treating is is correct that you are the one hurting the team. White is training you, and coaching you up so you won't be the embarrassment White has told us you are!!!!!!!

Maybe CC shouldn't suck so much in a game to get benched.

Also, Phil Jackson did yell at MJ famously one time. I would expect two competitive people at the top of their positions to absolutely challenge each other as you would be disappointed if someone wasn't performing to a level you know they can.

Having a heated conversation in a game is one thing. After said heated conversation the coach tells Jordan get up out of the lineup and hit the bench and get far away from my team. Get the backup in to replace jordan. You think Jordan would stand for that? You're being dishonest if you believe that. Respectfully, but Jordan is an alpha male and would let no man punk him like that and get away with it. And you don't have to be an alpha male, you just have to be a person with a brain to realize you just got punked and played by your coach on national television. Does coach Whte apologize today and say things got heated and i'm sorry i shouldn't have treated her that way? No she says "it was a teachable moment" doubling down on yeah i punked Caitlin because i'm the boss, i'm smarter, this is my team, and get in line caitlin and kiss my feet. My(white's) ego is more important than the franchise player that all Fever fans and Caitlin fans pay to see and watch only for Caitlin. But White wants it to be about her. White's ego is enormous and has brainwashed Caitlin into obeying her master.

And btw, i doubt Phil Jackson was telling jordan why do you suck at defense? I try to coach you and you continue to suck which is obvious what White was saying in that moment. The heated conversation with Jordan was probably differences on strategy against the other team. You really think he was telling Jordan you're the problem, learn how to play defense, or offense, like i taught you? Now hit the bench and think about how you embarrassed me and the bulls team? You think that would fly with Jordan?

And if that actually happened would the hosts on nbc say to jordan enough is enough. You're being disruptive now take a seat on the bench. Essentially grow up and learn how to play defense and stop whining as you're the problem and nobody else?

So the narrative is Caitlin Clarke sucks at basketball. Is this true?

Honestly, now I want to pay and see White coach. Wasn't ever going to attend a WNBA game, but I might have to just to see her coach. And I'll declare myself a Fever fan just to make your statement irrefutably false.

To make what statement false? Sounds like you a Caitlin hater. Respectfully, but if you think Caitlin sucks at basketball you are wrong. But only time will tell whose right on that question. We will see. Maybe Boston, Mitchell, Raven, Paige, and Angel Reece are better than Caitlin like the media and coach White tells us.

Her career off to the worst start possible thanks to coach White but still is breaking records all over the place. I wonder what would happen if Caitlin had a coach who featured Caitlin, as opposed to diminish Caitlin.

I am not a CC hater. You said that all Fever fans only pay to watch her play and not watch White coach, so I could, in theory, make that statement false by paying to watch White coach as a Fever fan.

Oh LOL, sure but you would be the first. If you think the Fever fans and Caitlin fans don't watch Fever basketball for Caitlin you're dreaming. Their ticket sales went through the roof when Caitlin joined the Fever.

No disrespect though. All good! Have fun at the game. Caitlin will be on the bench after 3 minutes so you'll be happy to watch the backups. Just kidding, kinda.

The Fever need a leader. Every team has a leader and it's supposed to be your best player most of the time. So it should obviously be Caitlin Clarke. But White won't allow Caitlin to be the leader. White wants to be the leader. That's why she humiliates Caitlin in the huddle then benches her. She wants to establish dominance that it's her team and will never be Caitlin's team. So the team is confused. They want to look to Caitlin as the leader but White keeps telling them i'm the leader and Caitlin is whatever i choose her to be which obviously White wants Caitlin to be someone not to be respected by her teammates. As that would be a threat to White's ego and dominance.

Btw what has White ever done to act like she's such a great coach and anything she says should never be questioned because i'm the greatest coach of all time? The fact that Caitlin protects White after she punked her makes me think Caitlin is soft. I thought she was hard and wouldn't take nothing from nobody. Now i see she's Stephanie White's butler. Whatever you need madam. It's really sad.

I'm so frustrated with Caitlin that she doesn't see it. She mocks her fans as being stupid and says her coach is the greatest and she'll ride with her forever. It almost wants me to root for them to lose until Caitlin wakes up.

How doesn't Caitlin's family and friends not see what's happening to her and speak up? Is Caitlin in a cult? Her family needs to help. Her legacy is in the process of being destroyed if nothing changes.

C'mon Angel Reece come hard at Caitlin on thursday. Dunk on her and stand over her. Show her again the now you see me now you don't hand move. Do something to wake Caitlin up, she's in a trance, from this state of accepting she's a marginal player that Stephanie White has implemented into her.

Caitlin's a sleeping giant than may remain sleeping unless something jars her to wake up and realize YOU are the one people answer to!!!!!!!!!!!!