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05-11-2016 , 09:38 PM

#1101

tzwien

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Starters should basically only come out if their replacement can be more effective. For the stars, this will never be the case.

Like Kawhi should play 48 minutes in this next elimination game unless they are up by 20 going into the 4th. Same with KD and Rust

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05-11-2016 , 09:42 PM

#1102

JayTeeMe

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Also Clayton Kershaw should pitch every single inning.

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05-11-2016 , 09:56 PM

#1103

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variance is a real thing that people refuse to acknowledge.

sort of like pop coaching poorly in the playoffs.

I've come around to this position lately.

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05-11-2016 , 10:08 PM

#1104

tzwien

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Also Clayton Kershaw should pitch every single inning.

Difference is that actually leads to overtraining. Running and moving hard in random spurts for 48 minutes every other day doesn't.

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05-11-2016 , 10:20 PM

#1105

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Difference is that actually leads to overtraining. Running and moving hard in random spurts for 48 minutes every other day doesn't.

way to state your opinion with absolute confidence on something you actually know nothing about

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05-11-2016 , 10:21 PM

#1106

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I've come around to this position lately.

But all of Pop's players suck tho (sans Kiwi)

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05-11-2016 , 10:31 PM

#1107

tzwien

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way to state your opinion with absolute confidence on something you actually know nothing about

Do you even lift bro

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05-11-2016 , 10:33 PM

#1108

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Do you even lift bro

be sure to pass your secret lifting info onto the hands of nba medical staffs, they've probably never heard about it and you're guaranteed to make millions of dollars

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05-11-2016 , 10:38 PM

#1109

tzwien

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Pitching is a max effort movement. Most of your time on a basketball court isn't even remotely close to max effort. Your recovery times will be totally different.

Track athletes and marathon runners can train mostly every day, but somehow basketball players can't? Why not?

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05-11-2016 , 10:42 PM

#1110

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way to state your opinion with absolute confidence on something you actually know nothing about

i know nothing about baseball - but the 2nd half of the statement isn't some crazy claim. players literally did this through the entire regular season for years before people clued on that you shouldn't do that

the danny green discussion is probably better framed as a role players mpg question, because plenty players already do what people are saying green should be doing. there are 30+ instances of 10+ playoff games at >40mp since 2010, this includes stars and major creators. no reason why danny green can't do the same thing, as can other important roleplayers with bad backups

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05-11-2016 , 10:48 PM

#1111

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im guessing the spurs trainers track and have (or are beginning to) decent data on overtraining and it's connection with injuries and/or subsequent effort/playig effectiveness thru sportvu data. overtraining could be inferred by heart rate variability, for example, and the activation of the sympathetic/parasympathetic nervous system and how much stress their bodies are under.

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05-11-2016 , 10:48 PM

#1112

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so to summarize, today's higher payed players are better conditioned and have access to advanced training programs, however, they play against equally conditioned competition who are no longer allowed, by rule, to play as physical as prior era's and the result is less minutes played.

easy game

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05-11-2016 , 10:55 PM

#1113

tzwien

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Duncan's heart rate can't be more than 10 per minute

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05-11-2016 , 10:57 PM

#1114

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it's really hard to pick the most reasonable and logical take on this argument. Millions of dollars, medical staffs, actual data vs lol current athletes.

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05-11-2016 , 10:58 PM

#1115

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What a bunch of lazy basketball players, BACK IN MY DAY we'd never leave the court except to smoke a cig

lol @ this discussion, especially when the Spurs are losing by being more tired at the end of games

like wtf is this **** being posted

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05-11-2016 , 11:01 PM

#1116

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current day players will always be softer in the eyes of OLDS, no arguing with them

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05-11-2016 , 11:32 PM

#1117

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is that the default YOUNGS argument when they run out of attention span? if you want to LOLOLDS, lol at the coaches, they decide the minutes.

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05-11-2016 , 11:41 PM

#1118

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Without doing any research at all I assume that FG% or defensive rating is inversely proportional to minutes played, with an increasing slope for older players. But I could be completely wrong on that. It would make an interesting project for someone with the data and extra time.

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05-12-2016 , 02:44 AM

#1119

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His history of success in the playoffs doesn't mean he hasn't made poor decisions at times. Playing Kyle ****ing Anderson is a poor decision.

You didn't say he's made poor decisions at times, you said he's a bad coach in the playoffs. Relatively long-term results show this is almost certainly not the case, unless you think their EV should have been to win like 50% of all championships.

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05-12-2016 , 08:02 AM

#1120

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You're right, I worded my post stupidly. I just meant Pop is capable of coaching poorly in the playoffs, but TZ doesn't seem willing to acknowledge the possibility of him making mistakes due to his overall record. I didn't mean he's coached poorly in the playoffs overall.

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05-12-2016 , 08:38 AM

#1121

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Has there ever been a bigger lock than the League Office getting to the refs and rigging this game for San Antonio?

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05-12-2016 , 08:55 AM

#1122

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lockiest lock to ever lock. esp with the blown calls at the end of g5. if i'm silver i bring in STERN to work the phones - just to make sure the people on the other end of the line understand the gravity of the situation

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05-12-2016 , 10:39 AM

#1123

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Everyone jumping on OKC +3, +2, +1 it would appear. Vegas on hold with the NBA as well to guarantee a big night.

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05-12-2016 , 11:54 AM

#1124

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Just was going to say about Aldridge. This same thing happened in the Port/Hou series 2 years ago really. McHale spent 2 games with Terrence Jones on him, similar to how Donovan had Ibaka on him. Then both switched to Asik and Adams respectively and Aldridge went from completely dominating to just being very good.