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05-11-2016 , 10:42 AM

#1051

Wooders0n

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Originally Posted by Double Eagle

Nate Duncan pretty much nailed this. OKC defenders are all decent or better 1v1 and this incarnation of the Spurs just doesn't move the ball or space the floor well enough to take advantage of the Thunder's glaring weakness as team defenders.

Wat

Spurs have had incredible ball movement all year

Thunder are winning because Russ and Durant are playing well and they're both top 5 players in the world

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05-11-2016 , 10:43 AM

#1052

Wooders0n

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Thunder may not win a game vs. GS. Spurs might win one or two,but probably not 2. Neither of these teams are close to them. Shame on anyone who was fooled by sa's point differential.

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05-11-2016 , 11:01 AM

#1053

ALLTheCookies

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n

Thunder may not win a game vs. GS. Spurs might win one or two,but probably not 2. Neither of these teams are close to them. Shame on anyone who was fooled by sa's point differential.

I strongly disagree with this but then again I've been watching a Steph-less Dubs team for 3 weeks so it's entirely possible.

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05-11-2016 , 11:17 AM

#1054

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I actually think the Spurs ball movement has been a detriment this series. Seems lots of early open looks are being passed up for the sake of ball movement only to settle for 18-20 footers.

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05-11-2016 , 11:18 AM

#1055

Caldarooni

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EVery time Parker takes a jump shot OKC has won that possession

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05-11-2016 , 11:23 AM

#1056

mullen

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The Spurs really need Aldridge's offense too, especially late in games. Kawhi is incapable of stepping up offensively and shouldering the creation duties. And I agree with Cald that Parker taking 17 footers off the pnr is a win for OKC basically always

Danny Green raining 3s helped but Spurs gonna have a real tough time winning a 6-21 Aldridge game

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05-11-2016 , 12:20 PM

#1057

DisGunBGud

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What are the series prices currently at. Spurs still a small fav?

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05-11-2016 , 12:45 PM

#1058

mullen

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

What are the series prices currently at. Spurs still a small fav?

Going off the spreads for G6/G7 the Spurs have roughly a 41% chance of winning both games.

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05-11-2016 , 12:47 PM

#1059

TimM846

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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones

You know, it's almost like variance is completely a real thing and that the narratives we form about who "choked" and who was a hero and who got revenge and who was "shook" from game to game and series to series and year to year are just fitting a story onto randomness.

And I know we sort of know this logically, but no - really. It's real.

variance is a real thing that people refuse to acknowledge.

sort of like pop coaching poorly in the playoffs.

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05-11-2016 , 01:01 PM

#1060

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there is a lot less variance in basketball than people think. a good shot is good. its on you. if it bounces out, it wasnt a perfect shot. there is variance in the reffing. not sure where else?

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05-11-2016 , 01:03 PM

#1061

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Originally Posted by Wooders0n

Wat

Spurs have had incredible ball movement all year

Thunder are winning because Russ and Durant are playing well and they're both top 5 players in the world

contrary to popular belief ball movement doesn't exist without being able to beat a defender 1v1, even if it's just beating him by being faster at coming off a screen, the Spurs haven't been able to do that consistently since game 1.

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I actually think the Spurs ball movement has been a detriment this series. Seems lots of early open looks are being passed up for the sake of ball movement only to settle for 18-20 footers.

we've gone through spurts of complete iso-ball into over passing, into iso-ball, etc. Someone on twitter (Nate Duncan i think?) made a good point which is, players are passing up marginally good shots because they think OKC's D will be there in time to contest, even when we can clearly see on tv that they won't.

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05-11-2016 , 01:05 PM

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there is a lot less variance in basketball than people think. a good shot is good. its on you. if it bounces out, it wasnt a perfect shot. there is variance in the reffing. not sure where else?

There's an insane amount of variance in shooting, no one is a perfect shooter, even Curry "only" shoots like 50% from 3

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05-11-2016 , 01:07 PM

#1063

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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero

There's an insane amount of variance in shooting, no one is a perfect shooter, even Curry "only" shoots like 50% from 3

theres 'variance' but its not like a shot goes up and it misses and its unlucky, or it goes in and its lucky. it is skill whether you shoot the ball well. the 50 percent of the time curry misses, he just didnt shoot it perfectly

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05-11-2016 , 01:10 PM

#1064

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it doesn't matter though, maybe some day some one will be born that's skillful enough to hit 100% of open shots, until then the common unskillful players will continue to shoot around 50% and some days they'll run like god and some days they won't.

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05-11-2016 , 01:31 PM

#1065

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Lol of course there is a ton of variance. Spurs just shot like 95% from the field in game 1 because they tried harder? Anything that isn't 100% or 0% is subject to variance. Whatever it is.

The variance in shooting comes from "finding" that perfect form necessary for the ball to go in. Same with putting in golf. There are a bunch of variables that need to line up correctly. If these things were possible to control nobody would ever miss. Thus, variance.

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05-11-2016 , 01:32 PM

#1066

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05-11-2016 , 01:41 PM

#1067

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Think about how annoying it is to be a hockey writer. You literally have to change your whole story depending on which way the puck bounces.

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05-11-2016 , 01:44 PM

#1068

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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones

what league has less variance than the nba?

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05-11-2016 , 01:50 PM

#1069

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Someone on twitter (Nate Duncan i think?) made a good point which is, players are passing up marginally good shots because they think OKC's D will be there in time to contest, even when we can clearly see on tv that they won't.

I've noticed this as well, especially on a lot of dribble drives. Now I understand some of that is designed for the kick out 3, but the Spurs like you said are anticipating the defense contesting when they never actually do and the attacking player still passes the ball anyways.

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05-11-2016 , 01:52 PM

#1070

tzwien

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Originally Posted by rtd353

what league has less variance than the nba?

None. How is that relevant?

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05-11-2016 , 02:42 PM

#1071

TimM846

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It's not relevant. Neither are silly Westbrook haters today.

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05-11-2016 , 02:54 PM

#1072

tzwien

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Originally Posted by TimM846

It's not relevant. Neither are silly Westbrook haters today.

43/120 from the field this series. Westbrick is still a suitable nickname.

Durant is 49/98. Keep chucking those shots though Russ.

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05-11-2016 , 03:12 PM

#1073

Baltimore Jones

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Originally Posted by TimM846

variance is a real thing that people refuse to acknowledge.

sort of like pop coaching poorly in the playoffs.

5 championships out of 19 plus a Finals up 3-2 and numerous close losses say otherwise.

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05-11-2016 , 05:43 PM

#1074

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I tried to give my money away once already with no takers, I'll try again. My $100 to your $125, I've got the Spurs taking it in 7.

Venmo, PP preferred.

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05-11-2016 , 05:45 PM

#1075

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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud

I tried to give my money away once already with no takers, I'll try again. My $100 to your $125, I've got the Spurs taking it in 7.

Venmo, PP preferred.

booked

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