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05-03-2016 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GeoffRas22
what's amazing is he was arguably better in games 1 & 2 of the 1st round of the 2014 playoffs. that portland/houston series was incredible.
Terrence Jones tho

I'd say this is more impressive based on that.

Mchale waited way too long to put Asik on him.
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05-03-2016 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
lol pretty sure if warriors were in same exact spot as spurs

espn would be posting articles about how they can protest the result and its not fair that curry would have his great season tarnished by bad reffing
I think the refs get hounded in that situation as well, but there is more chatter about how they botched the play off the steal. May have more to do with it having been Danny Green than anything though
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05-03-2016 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
I think the refs get hounded in that situation as well, but there is more chatter about how they botched the play off the steal. May have more to do with it having been Danny Green than anything though
draymond would come running across the court and yell FOUL in the refs face. and stare him down. they would t up waiters and call a foul to be safe and make sure to be appease king dray dray
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05-03-2016 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
There's no way he can play 48 min and be effective the whole time, if for no other reason than his body is not used to playing without rests during the game

Also, the spurs are somehow mostly dodging their failed execution at the end due to ref gaffes. Any other team and the resounding cry would prob be that they should have won anyway


Playoffs have longer commercial breaks, longer halftime, more substitutions, timeouts etc. LeBron averaged 42.7 MPG in the playoffs when he was RWB age and that's skewed a bit lower due to a few blowouts. In games that mattered it was 44-45ish

I think he could do it. Think 48 is a bit much but 44 seems ok

Edit- Loool been said a million times but in looking this up I came upon LBJ 08-09 playoff stats. Absurd.

14 games, averaging 35.3/9.1/7.3/1.6/0.9. 37.4 PER. .399 WS/48!!!! 62 TS% on 36.4 USG with a whopping 8.7 TOV%. Jesus Christ.

Last edited by mullen; 05-03-2016 at 03:45 PM.
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05-03-2016 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Can someone explain to me why the Spurs didn't call time out after the steal?
Cuz a 3v1 fastbreak is about the best outcome you'll ever get and is worth way more than a out of bounds play... Which is why all the results-oriented butthurt from San Antonio is pretty rich.
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05-03-2016 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheeljks
There's no way he can play 48 min and be effective the whole time, if for no other reason than his body is not used to playing without rests during the game
right, imagine the lols directed at Billy if he did that and Russ ****ed up in the last 2 mins

mullen,

evone agrees bout 43 or 44 mins being doable and pbly ideal

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Also, the spurs are somehow mostly dodging their failed execution at the end due to ref gaffes. Any other team and the resounding cry would prob be that they should have won anyway
ya
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05-03-2016 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
Cuz a 3v1 fastbreak is about the best outcome you'll ever get and is worth way more than a out of bounds play... Which is why all the results-oriented butthurt from San Antonio is pretty rich.
Except it wasn't a 3 on 1 fast break. It was a loose ball that Green recovered near midcourt and it was effectively a 2 on 2.

Best play was to call TO with 7 seconds left when OKC was in full defense mode and SAS had no play.
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05-03-2016 , 03:53 PM
A lot of it depends on who gets the ball obviously. Green being a terrible creator factors into the EV a lot compared to if say Ginobili or Parker or Leonard comes up with the ball.

Still think you take that over a TO, but agree it wasn't really a 3 on 1.
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05-03-2016 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Clemens
Except it wasn't a 3 on 1 fast break. It was a loose ball that Green recovered near midcourt and it was effectively a 2 on 2.

Best play was to call TO with 7 seconds left when OKC was in full defense mode and SAS had no play.
strongly disagree, the spurs werent shook. they were right into good penetrating, kicking offense and had 2 guys ready to fight for rebound. aldridge clearly got fouled on last shot(which after everything happened, was like a whatever no call)

they were in a more advantaged spot than they could get from anything pop could come up with
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05-03-2016 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
strongly disagree, the spurs werent shook. they were right into good penetrating, kicking offense and had 2 guys ready to fight for rebound. aldridge clearly got fouled on last shot(which after everything happened, was like a whatever no call)

they were in a more advantaged spot than they could get from anything pop could come up with
LOL, SAS went into panic mode. Get the best coach involved.
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05-03-2016 , 03:56 PM
It was basically a 3 on 1. At worst it was a 3 on 2 and OKC's 2nd man was behind the ball the entire play

There's no way calling timeout is better.
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05-03-2016 , 03:57 PM
idk that i would call it a 3v1 either b/c rwb was trekking into the play, but it was def an advantageous situation for the spurs. they had multiple opportunities for good looks. green throws a better pass to mills, or takes a dribble and makes adam step up to him, or passes to ginobili immediately, etc.
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05-03-2016 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mullen
It was basically a 3 on 1. At worst it was a 3 on 2 and OKC's 2nd man was behind the ball the entire play

There's no way calling timeout is better.
Not at that moment, but at 7 sec yes TO.
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05-03-2016 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Clemens
LOL, SAS went into panic mode. Get the best coach involved.


easy no time out



easy no time out



ok sure, if you can evaluate the situation that quick. under a second after being heavily advantged the previous 3 seconds



and nope
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05-03-2016 , 04:05 PM
they got a 3 on 1, to a 2 on 1, to a drive and kick, should be wide open 3. would have been an easy score if adams didnt play absolutely perfect
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05-03-2016 , 04:05 PM
Looking back at 7.1 seconds, SAS are in complete disarray. Green is on the weak side parked for a 3 (he should not even be in the game at that point), Mills is under the basket OOB, LMA and Kawhi are surrounded, and Ginoboli has no shot. If they were thinking clearly obvious TO.
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05-03-2016 , 04:13 PM
Probably the optimal play for stationary Green would be to pass to Ginoboli, who was running and could have forced Adams' hand. Then Ginoboli could either draw a foul going up or dish to Mills if Adams over commits. But Mills would have almost certainly been fouled or contested by Westbrook.
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05-03-2016 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Clemens
Looking back at 7.1 seconds, SAS are in complete disarray. Green is on the weak side parked for a 3 (he should not even be in the game at that point), Mills is under the basket OOB, LMA and Kawhi are surrounded, and Ginoboli has no shot. If they were thinking clearly obvious TO.
The most important part is not that the Spurs aren't in perfect position to run, it's that OKC is completely out of position
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05-03-2016 , 04:17 PM
OKC is in pretty good defensive position at 7.1. Basically no opportunities for SAS to score.
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05-03-2016 , 04:25 PM
steven adams defense on the last possession was ridiculous. i thought ginobilis pass was kind of silly but looking at the replay and screencaps of when he releases the ball you expect that to result in a pretty great look most of the time--except adams recognizes it and comes to a dead stop right as hes letting it go, pivots and makes a great contest

Last edited by BossmanJR; 05-03-2016 at 04:34 PM.
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05-03-2016 , 04:29 PM
Danny Green might be the worst guard in the league on a fast break but also the best guard in the league against a fast break.

also yeah, Adams was super elite on the final possession. He was great all game.
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05-03-2016 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BossmanJR
steven adams defense on the last possession was ridiculous
somewhat fitting that's that what they traded Harden for
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05-03-2016 , 04:33 PM
FWIW OKC was 40:1 to win 'ship before last night's game, now 20:1. Maybe still some value there.
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05-03-2016 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger Clemens
Looking back at 7.1 seconds, SAS are in complete disarray. Green is on the weak side parked for a 3 (he should not even be in the game at that point), Mills is under the basket OOB, LMA and Kawhi are surrounded, and Ginoboli has no shot. If they were thinking clearly obvious TO.
Lol, they got a decent look at a three (would have been wide open had he pump faked and took a dribble in) followed by a scramble under the basket, and that was about the worst possible outcome they could have gotten there. A timeout would have been absurd.
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05-03-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Lol, they got a decent look at a three (would have been wide open had he pump faked and took a dribble in) followed by a scramble under the basket, and that was about the worst possible outcome they could have gotten there. A timeout would have been absurd.
1. The "open 3" was contested by Adams and the shot was an airball.
2. SAS did not need a 3.
3. LMA and Kawhi are standing next to each other. Think that happens with a play from Pop?
4. Green should have been out of the game.
5. Mills was behind the basket OOB at 7.1. Adams easily got to Mills when he tried to get open, and it didn't work.
6. Nobody had an open shot at 7.1. Ginoboli tried to break the defense down but you saw how effective he is driving from his weak side.

TO clearly best option, but as I noted above they were in panic mode.
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