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11-19-2008 , 11:37 PM
Butch Davis is a busy guy.
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11-19-2008 , 11:38 PM
NOW, GG FO SHO.

Congrats Ball State. Still have some work to do, but if they can survive tonight you gotta like them to beat WMU at home and win the championship game.
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11-20-2008 , 03:03 PM
Some tidbits to keep in mind for this weekend's OU-Texas Tech game.

- Scoring Offense: OU 51.4 Tech 47.9
- Scoring Defense: Tech 22.2 OU 23.6

- Total Offense: Tech 566 OU 550
- Total Defense: OU 346 Tech 351

- Turnover Margin: OU +16 Tech +10
- 3rd Down Conver. : Tech 58% OU 46%
- Def. 3rd Down Con.: OU 30% Tech 34%

- Sacks: OU 34 Tech 26
- Sacks Allowed: Tech 5 OU 9

-Red Zone Off.: OU 95% Tech 88%
-Red Zone Def.: Tech 78.8% OU 78.9%


-OU is 59-2 at Home including 11-0 vs. Teams in the Top 25 since Stoops arrived
-OU is 5-1 at home against Tech since the Big 12 formed
-Margin of Victory in the Top 25 games at Norman is +25/game

-Texas Tech has won 2 of last 3 against OU, including leading the other for most of game
- Tech has defeated 3 ranked teams in a row with a margin of victory of 28 points
- Tech is 2-12 since 2002 vs. Ranked teams on the road, OU is 4-2 during that same stretch, did not include Texas games where OU was the "visitor"

- Within conference games, Tech has allowed least amount of points while OU has scored the most.

Looks like its going to be a good game, I really don't know if OU can stop them, but I don't know how much Tech can stop OU either. I think turnovers will be the difference, it just means we will have to wait and see who turns it over.
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11-20-2008 , 03:18 PM
Why did CMU's head coach, Butch Jones, not challenge the spot on the 4th and 1 play that Ball St ran in the 3rd quarter from their own 42?

It was a terrible blunder
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11-20-2008 , 03:21 PM
also, LOL at those announcers going off on Brady Hoke going for it on that 4th down

They should read this stuff on going for it and realize it is a debatable spot

of course, the play failed, but it actually succeeded due to a horrible spot
Ball St went on for a tying TD on that drive
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11-20-2008 , 03:33 PM
Guns Up. One time.
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11-20-2008 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by freedom.fries
Guns Up. One time.
I will also be pulling for Tech

For years, I've heard that teams cannot win playing the crazy throw-the-ball, basketball-on-grass style. If Tech makes it all the way, I think we can finally end that nonsense. It's kept football from evolving.

Somehow, Urban Meyer's offense didn't already convince all the old-timers.
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11-20-2008 , 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MyTurn2Raise
I will also be pulling for Tech

For years, I've heard that teams cannot win playing the crazy throw-the-ball, basketball-on-grass style. If Tech makes it all the way, I think we can finally end that nonsense. It's kept football from evolving.

Somehow, Urban Meyer's offense didn't already convince all the old-timers.
If anything, you are proving that you CAN'T win with the crazy, throw the ball every down style.

Spread offense, get the ball in space, yes. Throw every down, no. Balance is critical to winning championships.


1. This is the first time that tech has legitimately threatened, and it is also the first time that they have had any running game whatsoever. Tech's two leading rushers are averaging 7.26 and 5.07 yards per carry, and they're rushing for 130 yards a game... UNHEARD OF numbers for Tech in the past.

2. By all accounts, Florida is actually a run first team. They run a lot of option, misdirection, reverses and stuff too of course, but they have run the ball on 62% of their plays, (376 rushes and 233 passes)
Even controlling for blowouts, they still ran 60% of the time (120 passes and 181 runs in the first half)
Furthermore, most of their passes are either playaction or have a quarterback run fake involved, and are designed passes where the receiver is predetermined... pop passes, screens, zone busters, hero posts, etc.
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11-20-2008 , 06:13 PM
Hahahaha:

At Georgia Tech:

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“I was telling one of my friends that if we wanted to do something original, we should have a geekout and have a football game at the library,” Pritchett said, “because that’s where everyone is, anyway. It’d be a guaranteed sellout.”
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...out_miami.html
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11-20-2008 , 07:17 PM
God, I wish they wouldn't have college football games in major cities on thursday night. It took me three times longer to get home from work than usual.
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11-20-2008 , 09:00 PM
I had no idea the game was tonight, wondering why ESPNc was replaying a minor conference rivalry.
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11-20-2008 , 09:32 PM
Tech did a surprise onside kick uo 10-0 in the 2nd qtr?

Are coaches always this way or do they just catch FPS when they're on TV on a Thursday.
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11-20-2008 , 09:44 PM
When was the last time a BCS team was playing 250 pound tackles at both spots? Johnson might have had a bigger line at Navy, that's ridiculous.
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11-20-2008 , 10:15 PM
Man, Georgia Tech is really close to being really good. Even in their three loses so far this year, two of them they outgained their opponent by over 100 yards. I don't know much about who's returning on defense, but they're my sleeper pick for a national championship contender next year, love Paul Johnson, and with another year under their belts, that offense could be scary next year.
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11-20-2008 , 10:28 PM
Yeah Tech is looking sharp.

Almost 20 years after the great ND-Miami games, I still love watching the Canes suffer.
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11-20-2008 , 10:48 PM
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Man, Georgia Tech is really close to being really good. Even in their three loses so far this year, two of them they outgained their opponent by over 100 yards. I don't know much about who's returning on defense, but they're my sleeper pick for a national championship contender next year, love Paul Johnson, and with another year under their belts, that offense could be scary next year.
Plus, I would argue that like 90% of their 'struggles' this year (when they have struggled) has been due to poor offensive line play, which was in turn due to (a) learning a completely new style of blocking and (b) a ridiculous amount of injuries.

The ACC should still be relatively down next year, I can see them being a big sleeper candidate.

BTW only up 17 with a ton of time left.... one thing the triple option does though is griiiiind clock.
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11-20-2008 , 11:52 PM
Man, I'm on the Tech bandwagon. Very impressive, I would not want to be playing them anytime soon. I really think Paul Johnson is a top 10 coach in the country, just awesome the way he's got that offense rolling in under a year.
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11-21-2008 , 12:01 AM
Randy Shannon = deer in the headlights
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11-21-2008 , 12:11 AM
No dude, he's a great CEO
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11-21-2008 , 12:38 AM
Yeah, this is far and away the best the offense has looked. You had to expect GT to grow throughout the year and now they're finally doing it. The fact that they did this well on the ground without their two starting OTs (and without another OT who was starting tonight for most of the game) is downright scary. I really think they're going to beat Georgia this year.

Still alive for the ACC championship too with a loss from Carolina and a loss from the UVA/VT winner.
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11-21-2008 , 12:53 AM
That was their best game in many years. 472 yards rushing. Still need a lot of help though for the ACC but they have a good shot against uga and a decent bowl game for once

lolmiami too
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11-21-2008 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by GoldenBears

2. By all accounts, Florida is actually a run first team. They run a lot of option, misdirection, reverses and stuff too of course, but they have run the ball on 62% of their plays, (376 rushes and 233 passes)
Even controlling for blowouts, they still ran 60% of the time (120 passes and 181 runs in the first half)
Furthermore, most of their passes are either playaction or have a quarterback run fake involved, and are designed passes where the receiver is predetermined... pop passes, screens, zone busters, hero posts, etc.
This year UF is definitely run first. The past few seasons haven't been so- 2006 you had a very mediocre RB in Deshawn Wynn (i suppose solid but by no means great), 2007 Kheston Moore, while not awful is again not very flashy (and had a few fumbles that perhaps cost the UGA game). 2008 is the first year we've had a decent running attack since Ciatrack Fason (sp?). When we won the NC game in 2006, neither the passing or running attacks were brilliant, meh.
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11-21-2008 , 10:47 AM
No voice, new white shirt.

Seniors are going to graduate without ever losing to Miami. Bwahahahaha, suck it canes.
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11-21-2008 , 01:07 PM
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No voice, new white shirt.

Seniors are going to graduate without ever losing to Miami. Bwahahahaha, suck it canes.
I got a shirt too!

the whiteout worked pretty well in the student sections from what I could see, havent seen anything from the broadcast though.
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11-21-2008 , 01:34 PM
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This year UF is definitely run first. The past few seasons haven't been so- 2006 you had a very mediocre RB in Deshawn Wynn (i suppose solid but by no means great), 2007 Kheston Moore, while not awful is again not very flashy (and had a few fumbles that perhaps cost the UGA game). 2008 is the first year we've had a decent running attack since Ciatrack Fason (sp?). When we won the NC game in 2006, neither the passing or running attacks were brilliant, meh.
My point is a lot of people lump 'spread' with 'pass every down.' The spread is definitely the future, but as teams like Florida, WVU and now TTech are proving, the spread is only effective if you can still maintain balance.

Urban's offense is a 60/40 run first pass off of play action offense. It was like that at Utah when they went undefeated (ran for like 250 yards a game IIRC), and it was supposed to be like that at Florida but they inexplicably had the most awful group of running backs of all time and had to use Tebow to batter it. Now, they actually have the runners they should've had all along, and this is how it should look.

I said this in 2004, but Urban Meyer's offense is the future. To look at it from a poker player's perspective, I feel like he has optimal ratios of run to pass, misdirection to direct runs, and an optimal number of reverses, switches etc. It's so ****ing hard to defend when they put you out into space over, and over, and over again. The only other team that I feel is even close to this is Wake Forest, and more recently the Big-12 juggernauts, but even then I think a good deal of their success is due to inferior competition and incredibly talented athletes rather than brilliant coaching.
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