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Is there even any coordination between the federation, MLS, and the team academies regarding systems? Or does each team develop players on their own, in their own systems?

MLS should require each team to have a full academy with a mandated minimum budget each year. There’s no risk of relegation so as a trade off they need to take some of their money and use it to help develop soccer and the USMNT.

The only coordination between USSF and MLS is to make sure those in power stay in power so they can continue to reap the financial benefits of being in power.

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10-17-2019 , 09:23 AM

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It's can be more than one thing!

Our team should have a massive latino flavor (I apologize if that's not a good way to put it) right now. USSF needs to go into the latino areas in this country and recruit the hell out of those kids and get them excited about playing with the USMNT. Those communities are the ones who have a soccer culture already. USSF needs to recruit coaches at all levels who speak both Spanish and English and really cater to that demographic. If we continue down the same path of only using the upper middle class white kids who can afford to send their kids to DA clubs we'll continue to miss out on qualifying for major tournaments.

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10-18-2019 , 09:18 AM

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USMNT legend Hugo Perez on his new role with El Tri, and how U.S. Soccer needs to improve Latino outreach

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“I still feel that they (U.S. Soccer) don’t support outreach in the Latino community,” said Perez. “I think the federation has a responsibility for being the entity of amateur soccer in this country, (in order) to reach those people, to reach Latino leagues. Give them some kind of guidance and what they’re looking for, and make them feel that they’re part of it.”

A quick glance at the latest USMNT call-ups highlights the need to better connect with the country’s Latino and Mexican-American population. It’s no secret that the pay-to-play system makes things exceedingly difficult for young Latino players to be discovered and nurtured, and when coupled with a lack of U.S. Soccer staff that is culturally literate in their community, players get left behind.

Asked if U.S. Soccer is equipped to connect with different cultures, Perez said, “I don’t think so. I don’t think they are, because I know the people that are working there right now and they have to hire people who really understand. It’s not only about picking players, it’s about understanding the culture, the families, what their needs are. You can not deal with a Latino family like you deal with a Caucasian family, it’s totally different.”

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Perez said that he’s heard fellow coaches in the U.S. say that Latino players are good, but that “they’re not guys who are going to crash and be physical.”

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10-18-2019 , 10:16 AM

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I kind of like LCFC's "Spread your seed" plan

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10-18-2019 , 12:14 PM

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Fossilkid93

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Us poker players living abroad are the hope for the future!

I think I have failed though. Almost a decade traveling in soccer rich places like France, Mexico, Peru, and Colombia and I've yet to father a son (that I'm aware of). Also failed in New Zealand, which could've helped get our rugby program off the ground.

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10-18-2019 , 03:39 PM

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I kind of like LCFC's "Spread your seed" plan

Epstein had a similar plan and you saw what happened to him

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10-18-2019 , 04:40 PM

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Canada now accepts more refugees than the USA, and as I said, youth soccer is much more expensive in the USA so it is tougher for a refugee or lower income family to put their kid through an American academy/traveling team.

Did you mean to say refugees or did you actually mean immigrants? It would seem odd to think a refugee is more likely to be a soccer stud than an immigrant who isn't a refugee (maybe I'm missing something).

The US accepts over 4x more immigrants than Canada does.

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10-18-2019 , 08:01 PM

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I meant refugees. Immigrants are obviously a plus to both countries, but it really has seemed as of late that Canada has had more luck with immigrants/refugees advancing in their program while the US Soccer teams often look like a college lacrosse team.

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10-18-2019 , 08:35 PM

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I'm not following this discussion. Why would refugees benefit the NT more than immigrants?

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10-18-2019 , 08:46 PM

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they don't

it's just some cocky canadian virtue signaling because they randomly won a game

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10-18-2019 , 11:04 PM

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I said that cutting refugees (and immigrants) as the USA has done is a trend that will hurt the program. Shouldn't be too hard to understand.

Refugees was brought up because the best Canadian player was a refugee, should be pretty obvious?

It's also pretty obvious the only people who get mad about "virtue signaling", online on a Friday night are from the Mass. area.

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10-19-2019 , 07:52 AM

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I said that cutting refugees (and immigrants) as the USA has done is a trend that will hurt the program. Shouldn't be too hard to understand.

Honest question here, how many refugees and/or immigrants are currently in the USMNT player pool? Unless US Soccer starts looking at those players the drop in refugees/immigrants coming to the US will have no impact on the USMNT.

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10-19-2019 , 08:23 AM

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Yea, this is some pretty poor logic. I’m certainly no fan of the Cheeto’s policies, but their effect with refugees is barely a blip. Especially with how the USSF has grotesquely ignored the greater issue of effectively only looking at upper-middle class white kids. The lack of AAs and Hispanic players in the side is a vastly bigger issue and a much greater failure then refugee policies that will be undone as soon as there is a Democrat as president again

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10-19-2019 , 08:34 AM

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Wat?

I'm still confused and have no idea what you're getting at but I'll let it go

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10-27-2019 , 04:52 PM

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Krayz

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Wow nobody posting about puligod. Dead forum

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10-27-2019 , 05:03 PM

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He doesnt play in MLS

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10-28-2019 , 02:24 AM

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bacalaopeace

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If true, that's a lot lower on a per capita basis.

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10-28-2019 , 02:26 AM

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bacalaopeace

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How many top international teams have a single former refugee playing for them?

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10-28-2019 , 11:43 AM

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dkgojackets

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DESTINATION AMERICA

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10-28-2019 , 12:00 PM

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prizminferno

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Wow Dest GOAT

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10-28-2019 , 12:01 PM

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LFC_USA

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DEST to MURRICA!

What an idiot

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10-28-2019 , 08:12 PM

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Pulisic hat trick, Sargent assist, and now Dest chooses USA! This is probably the best weekend for the USMNT in a long time.

I’m going to ignore the fact that the U-17s got drilled 4-1 by Senegal. They still have time to grow lol.