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01-29-2010 , 08:25 PM
Hey, AC-Cobra didn't leave a big board with anyone, did he? I have a feeling this won't go very far the rest of the night if he didn't.
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01-29-2010 , 08:28 PM
Okay, not really going to do a write up but one sec
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01-29-2010 , 08:30 PM
I'm here luckily, gonna have to think about my pick a bit so don't rush ahead of me though.

Just re-watched the first three episodes of S3 Soprano's and whoever said this was the weakest I'm not sure what they're getting at

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The episode Livia dies, despite the dated CGI is a very good episode. Following that the episode where Christopher gets made and ****s up the sport books is very good.

Re-watching this though makes me remember how bad AJ was, only weak point of the show. No wonder that kid hasn't been in anything since.
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01-29-2010 , 08:30 PM
Going out for a few hours. Will probably be back in time, but can I PM someone our pick just in case?
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01-29-2010 , 08:33 PM
you can pm me
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01-29-2010 , 08:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

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Don't see why an updated version of this wouldn't be awesome.

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The series consisted of unrelated episodes depicting paranormal, futuristic, dystopian, or simply disturbing events; each show typically featured a surprising plot twist and was usually brought to closure with some sort of moral. The series was also notable for featuring both established stars (e.g. Cliff Robertson) and younger actors who later became famous (e.g. Robert Redford).

The "twilight zone" itself is not presented as being a tangible plane, but rather a metaphor for the strange circumstances befalling the protagonists. Serling's opening and closing narrations usually summarized the episode's events in a cryptic, dramatized manner, thus demonstrating how the episode's main character had "entered the Twilight Zone."
It's still in syndication. I'll put it on the same night as Buffy.

Network:
CSI
NYPD Blue
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
The Twilight Zone
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01-29-2010 , 08:36 PM
Procedurals are the **** now and Twilight would be a perfect Sci-fi procedural. Win pick.
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01-29-2010 , 08:37 PM
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Roseanne is a great pick. One of the few sitcoms that actually had real character development throughout the series and not just deciding one day to make one of the kids the goth kid like the stupid sitcoms do. I like how they had real arguments and showed some anger on Roseanne and not just fake washed-down TV anger.
Touche'. No one really gave a crap about Mark anyway though
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01-29-2010 , 08:37 PM
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Procedurals are the **** now and Twilight would be a perfect Sci-fi procedural. Win pick.
Didn't they remake it in the 80s, 90s and 2000s and they all failed pretty badly?
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01-29-2010 , 08:38 PM
How did the X-Files/LOST network not grab The Twilight Zone?

Also, best tv theme ever.
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01-29-2010 , 08:38 PM
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Didn't they remake it in the 80s, 90s and 2000s and they all failed pretty badly?
4th times the charm baby.
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01-29-2010 , 08:39 PM
The one thing that worries me about Twilight Zone is that they have different actors in every single episode and tons of different writers/directors, which might not work in 2010.

The remakes did fail terribly, but I think given that the stories will be fresh to the audience it will be more successful.
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01-29-2010 , 08:39 PM
The remakes failed because they were just retelling the old stories and didn't have Rod Serling. Having him would make it successful today imo, especially if you can get some decent celebrity guest spots.

I also think the show kind of benefits from being really old, black and white, and having little special effects. Makes it way creepier.
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01-29-2010 , 08:43 PM
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The remakes failed because they were just retelling the old stories and didn't have Rod Serling. Having him would make it successful today imo, especially if you can get some decent celebrity guest spots.

I also think the show kind of benefits from being really old, black and white, and having little special effects. Makes it way creepier.
Yeah, we get Sterling as writer/producer/intro. And we take the profits from CSI to bring in guests ldo.
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01-29-2010 , 08:51 PM
Ok I'm gonna pick something I was going to save until later but am scared its going to go now that its been semi-mentioned. Write up coming.
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01-29-2010 , 08:54 PM
Actually might lead CSI into Twilight Zone to boost ratings, probably makes more sense than same night as Buffy.
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01-29-2010 , 08:57 PM
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Ok I'm gonna pick something I was going to save until later but am scared its going to go now that its been semi-mentioned. Write up coming.
o rly
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01-29-2010 , 09:05 PM
With the 66th pick in the draft ACC network selects..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bhWOga-OEM

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In Living Color



There might have been a sketch show picked before it but this is the best draftable sketch show. Groundbreaking sketch comedy, with a heavy emphasis on african american subject matter mean two things: 1) I'm hitting the african american demographic hard. 2) My show is getting a page on stuffwhitepeoplelike.com.

The show is funny as hell and had decent longetivity for a non SNL sketch show. It was also very edgy and controversial, those who don't believe me can read the following from wiki which even read hilarious in print (although it may be nostalgia on my part)

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Fox started censoring the scripts more after In Living Color produced a live Super Bowl halftime special (branded by the network as The Doritos Zaptime/'In Living Color' Super Halftime Party). During the "Men on Football" sketch, Damon Wayans and David Alan Grier ad libbed a suggestion that Richard Gere and track and field star Carl Lewis were homosexuals, much to Lewis' open chagrin. The programming stunt lured 20 million to 25 million viewers from CBS' telecast of the halftime festivities during Super Bowl XXVI on Sunday, January 26, 1992. Also, in the originally aired version of another sketch unrelated to the Super Bowl special ("Men on Fitness" – February 7, 1993), there was a simulation of Damon Wayans' character Blaine enjoying receiving facial ejaculation while being sprayed with a water bottle. These two segments have been cut from reruns and the DVD version.

On the May 5, 1990 broadcast, Keenen Ivory Wayans did a take-off on a Billy Dee Williams "Colt 45" commercial (in which the purpose of the beverage is to get your lady friend wasted) that ended with a woman (played by Kim Coles) passed out on her back on a dining table, and "Billy Dee" moving in on her unconscious body to have sex with her. The "Colt 45" sketch was seen only once during the original broadcast. The sketch was omitted from repeats because some felt it was making light of date rape.[citation needed] The Season 1 DVD set of ILC didn't include the "cut" sketch from the pilot. This skit was cut by Fox censors, and the necessary modifications were made to the master tape. But Keenen "accidentally" mixed up the masters, and the original master was broadcast. That segment has never been broadcast since, not even in syndication, on FX or BET. It has been replaced by "The Exxxon Family" (a fake promo for a sitcom about a clumsy Exxon boat captain) in syndication and DVD box sets.
The shows edginess wont be a problem on my network and will in fact make it fit in better with the shows around it. I've locked down a ridiculously popular show, the best in this format for its genre (To be clear there are sketch shows I think are better but some are English and wouldnt translate, one is too short lived and not broadly popular).

In case you need to be reminded of the ridiculous talent the show had as regular cast members:

Keenan Ivory Wayans
Damon, Marlon and Shawn Wayans (and Kim)
Jim Carrey
Jamie Foxx
David Allen Grier
Rosie mother****ing Perez
And J-Lo's ass as one of the Fly Girls

Roster so far:

The Sopranos
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Friday Night Lights
In Living Color


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01-29-2010 , 09:06 PM
I wonder if Art Attack is going to be drafted..
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01-29-2010 , 09:08 PM
tease
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01-29-2010 , 09:09 PM
I think its a good pick in this spot, although it may have slipped under the radar. If people think its going too early, blame Pudge lol.
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01-29-2010 , 09:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y1UgqVNuew

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Malcolm in the Middle

This show went WAY downhill towards the end but it was pretty awesome for a decent run with solid ratings and acclaim. I think Malcolm in the Middle will also see a boost in popularity from a 2010 audience. Many of its styles that were innovative at the time (no laugh track/live audience, breaking the fourth wall, shot on film, etc) have become popular now and some similar shows have become big ratings hits.

This show is also a perfect fit with Freaks and Geeks for my intended adolescent angst comedy block. I'm once again moving a show from network to cable, but imo it will get funnier with less restriction on cable and still be a nice ratings draw for me.

SarcasticRat's Seldom Seen Network:
Freaks and Geeks
Mad Men
House
Malcolm in the Middle
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01-29-2010 , 09:11 PM
I think there are better sketch comedy shows than ILC, but they don't have the same longevity.
Malcom seems like a solid pick and I think it would improve being on cable.
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01-29-2010 , 09:11 PM
I wasn't the biggest fan of MITM back in the day, but recently my DVR started picking up some episodes and I started watching it again. Pretty awesome show in hindsight (at least in the earlier seasons that I've seen). Dunno how it did in ratings but I give it a thumbs up for humor and great acting.
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01-29-2010 , 09:13 PM
It was a pretty good ratings draw (something like 20th-30th) in its prime, then Fox started moving it to different time slots and they started having more kids and it was like the lowest rated show on the network its final year.

I think Jane Kaczmarek's performance in it is one of the best comedic performances in any show, idk how she never won an Emmy.
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