and how many wildcats teams have made the playoffs?

he doesn't have to start in a wildcat very often to make the overall chances over 15%. would you say he has 10% of starting in the playoffs next year?

He plays in the afc west, so it's far from zero

Nobody could run on short yardage and throw like tebow

He would be great as a wildcat guy

*** ravens would be a much better team if they put tebow in on all short yardage situations

lollllllllll @ all the haters (not just here, everywhere)

as if all the incredible things he's done this year suddenly dont matter because he got shredded by one of the best teams in football and his mouthbreather of a coach got completely out-played by one of the greatest coaches in NFL history

tebow is a rookie and here to stay folks.

uhhh, tebow isn't a rookie.

sorry, young quarterback in his 2nd year. same thing. he hasn't even had a full year of starting.

I mean he isn't a rookie. Not only is this his second season but hes now played in way more games than your average rookie so basically no reason to consider him a rookie. He can still improve but this whole "upside" thing is sort of just a backhanded compliment. Yes if he miraculously learns how to throw, something he has failed to do over the last 20 year of intensive training with some of the best help available, then he might be good. Same goes for me

Tebow isnt as bad as he looked against pats but he is not as good as he looked against the steelers either. the truth is somewhere in between.

every QB gets what, 3 years?

look at eli's first few years. now he's ELIte as we all know.

dont forget his coach is also an absolute mouthbreather when it comes to calling plays. he only calls passing plays (w/ the exception of the lolstealers) on obvious, obvious passing downs and other than that runs it all the time. sort of hard to pass effectively and develop when the other team knows you are throwing it with 95% accuracy.

Tebow has nothing to do with the play calling limitations right? Sean Payton would have tebow lighting it up and throwing bombs 50 times a game?

Odds Tebow is a starter:

2012: 100%
2013: 30%
2014: 3%

yea have you seen the strength of the kid's arm? they should be airing it out. i havent seen arm strength like this since jamarcus russell and he was a #1 overall pick!

I feel 2013 is around 45

i wouldn't say it's being a hater to simply question if a guy who completes under 50% of his passes can succeed long term in the NFL. people questioned his throwing ability/motion coming out of college, and those same issues are still here 2 years into his career. his season was incredible and as a football fan i was certainly entertained by it, but it included multiple games where their offense was absolutely horrendous, plus wins where a giant luckbox was a far bigger factor than good quarterback play. i think he's a good guy, hell i started him on my fantasy team in championship week, but i think next year with a normal luckbox, i don't see tebow leading them to the playoffs again. and if he doesn't improve his throwing ability, i don't see him being a starter for all that much longer

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Tebow played pretty well, hard to win when your defense lays an egg like that

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it's been made pretty clear itt that all that matters is wins

in all honesty, i think (to borrow the cliched phrase everyone uses to assess tebow analysis) the truth lies somewhere in between my bayless-esque posting* and the haters.

obviously he isnt very good at throwing the football. he missed many wide open WRs last night or failed to even pick them up at all. i do still hold that fox's game scheming isn't very good and they aren't giving him a lot of chances (they HAD to gamble last night... there's no way they dont know that), but as others pointed out, tebow's passing ability is the cause of this.

however, his ability to run the ball and the schemes this allows the broncos to set up would be invaluable if he even had a mediocre NFL passing ability. i know he's had one throwing motion his whole life, but you can't deny that he's an absolutely amazing, top athlete and there's no reason not to give him a chance to redevelop the throwing motion (or try again, at least) and/or gain more ability as a passer. the payoff could be enormous in the hands of the right coach.

imagine if he could throw to a 55% completion rate... and then those plays where 8-9 guys are in the box and multiple LBs are dedicated to spying tebow... the opportunities that could create downfield on a very consistent (and not just 1 lolstealers) basis. we've seen flashes of that this year where he's lucksacked some huge throws.

he deserves a couple more years to develop and with that defense there's no reason why they can't compete (hell, they did this year obviously) in the process.

NE is 2nd to last in passing defense, so you can indict him for the game he had.

I think him trying to be a QB experiment will end next year. And he will go into the H-Back, Chris Cooley, dare I say...Aaron Hernandez, style of role.

All of the John Fox criticism just baffles me, but I guess it shouldn't given how simplistic most of 2p2's football analysis is.

The guy did a great job implementing a college-style option attack that suited Tebow's strengths. At a certain point, defenses began to figure that out and the running game was much less effective, like many people ITT predicted. Fox then let Tebow air it out a bit more against bad passing defenses and that worked for a while.

People have preached ITT that Tebow is more valuable than meets the eye because of his contributions to the running game and his lack of turnovers. But, when Fox runs the ball too much to play to that, people are all over him. What people seem to fail to realize is that a lot of the 3rd and longs are designed to accomplish that goal.

Moreover, Tebow's limitations in the passing game make running more on 3rd and long necessary. He can throw the deep ball well, but his intermediate passing game is bad. I think a lot of that is a product of not having any touch on those throws because he lacks the arm strength of good NFL QBs. So, he has to put more behind those intermediate throws allowing less room for touch balls and making his passes a lot less catchable.

You can criticize John Fox all you want, but the fact is that Tebow's limitations in the passing game affect a lot what he can do and limits the offense as a whole, especially when the running game fails on early downs.

i think he'd be a pretty fantastic tight end