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02-09-2011 , 01:19 AM
Lots of statistical stuff we can discount due to low sample size, or still falling within (or just outside) normal variance extremes. However, if you have something that seems to fall well outside of that, post it here..

Mine for today

Tampa Bay's Goal +/- differential in hockey

First four teams in the Eastern Conference

Phi 35W 13L +43
Pit 34W 17L +39
Tampa 33W 17L -1
Bos 30W 16L +42

That is really out there...
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02-09-2011 , 01:22 AM
Tom Brady interception rate in 2010 NFL season
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02-09-2011 , 01:23 AM
steelers losing the superbowl?
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02-09-2011 , 01:31 AM
first thing that came to mind was the lightning +/- so ridiculous

bautista hitting 53 or whatever he finished with will probably prove to be up there too
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02-09-2011 , 01:43 AM
Dennis Rodman's rebounding ability.

the whole series of articles, start at the beginning if you read:
http://skepticalsports.com/?tag=dennis-rodman

cliffs: Rodman is by far the best rebounder to have ever lived, and is standard deviations above anyone else, ever, and may have been the best at any particular skill of any basketball player ever.
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02-09-2011 , 01:55 AM
detroit lions
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02-09-2011 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
Dennis Rodman's rebounding ability.

the whole series of articles, start at the beginning if you read:
http://skepticalsports.com/?tag=dennis-rodman

cliffs: Rodman is by far the best rebounder to have ever lived, and is standard deviations above anyone else, ever, and may have been the best at any particular skill of any basketball player ever.
yea, but this is because he basically "decided" to become the GOAT rebounder, went from average offensively to not all that good with lower usage iirc, and then on top of all that played on a bunch of teams where he didn't have to be a top option (or even really an option at all) and was allowed to just roam, annoy people, defend them, and then go get the ****ing ball when it came off the rim.
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02-09-2011 , 02:35 AM
all of them
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02-09-2011 , 02:47 AM
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02-09-2011 , 03:03 AM
Cleveland Cavs
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02-09-2011 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aejones
yea, but this is because he basically "decided" to become the GOAT rebounder, went from average offensively to not all that good with lower usage iirc, and then on top of all that played on a bunch of teams where he didn't have to be a top option (or even really an option at all) and was allowed to just roam, annoy people, defend them, and then go get the ****ing ball when it came off the rim.
I don't think this is really accurate. Rodman was a perfectly good offensive player, he just wasn't a scorer. The most recent post in that series talks about this at length: http://skepticalsports.com/?p=1143. Also, there have been a lot of defender-rebounders in the history of the NBA who weren't major scoring options, many of whom played for championship-caliber teams, and Rodman's rebounding destroys theirs.
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02-09-2011 , 03:20 AM
y'all should read the black swan by taleb
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02-09-2011 , 03:30 AM
Secretariat at Belmont.

Edit: If you took the next fastest time ever run by a horse over 1 1/2 miles (through today), it would still lose to Secretariat's Belmont run by over 5 lengths.

Last edited by pete fabrizio; 02-09-2011 at 03:36 AM.
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02-09-2011 , 04:25 AM
The Undertaker's undefeated record at Wrestlemania LDO
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02-09-2011 , 04:48 AM
Kobe Bryant's last shot of the game shooting percentage. I swear if he takes a shot that is 40% earlier in the game it is like 80% at the end. If the shot is like a 5% chuck for anyone else, he hits it at like 40-50% at the end of the game.
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02-09-2011 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Kobe Bryant's last shot of the game shooting percentage. I swear if he takes a shot that is 40% earlier in the game it is like 80% at the end. If the shot is like a 5% chuck for anyone else, he hits it at like 40-50% at the end of the game.

Myth.

http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm

Although this was done a couple years ago, Kobe is coming off an above average season in 2009-2010 (7 of 12), But that is not even remotely beyond variance.
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02-09-2011 , 04:58 AM
2004-2005 EPL Season

P W D L GF GA GD
4 Everton 38 18 7 13 45 46 -1
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02-09-2011 , 05:04 AM
Well, the Babe Ruth home run stuff probably gets included somehow also if we are adding Rodman rebounding stats. But that to me is a different type of variance than the TB Lightning having such a good win percentage for such a crappy goals-differential. Ruth and Rodman just show that they were monstrously better than anyone else at what they did. Same with Bradman in cricket.

The TB Lightning thing seems to indicate that the team has been running way hotter in wins and losses than they should and have been able to beat the variance gods so far this year. I don't think anyone would try to argue that Ruth was running lucky with the number of HR's that he hit.
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02-09-2011 , 05:05 AM
Mark Fistric's +/- last year

he was a +27 somehow, the next best on his team was +8, then after that a couple guys were +3. four players were -10 or worse. it's a hell of an outlier, don't know if i've ever seen one like that before, and it seems totally effing random, especially considering that he's -5 for his career otherwise.
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02-09-2011 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RebeccaTwigley
2004-2005 EPL Season

P W D L GF GA GD
4 Everton 38 18 7 13 45 46 -1

That's pretty amazing. Their record in one goal games was probably 38-0 while their record in 2 or 3 goal games was 0-18.
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02-09-2011 , 05:08 AM
LOL hockey tho
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02-09-2011 , 05:10 AM
DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak is "beyond variance" because some of his hits were gifts from the official scorer, and were thus not natural.
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02-09-2011 , 05:13 AM
actually M'Bob, that's: 38GP - 18W, 7D, 13L, 45GF, 46GA, -1GD
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02-09-2011 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by aejones
yea, but this is because he basically "decided" to become the GOAT rebounder, went from average offensively to not all that good with lower usage iirc, and then on top of all that played on a bunch of teams where he didn't have to be a top option (or even really an option at all) and was allowed to just roam, annoy people, defend them, and then go get the ****ing ball when it came off the rim.

He went from SF to PF and drastically changed his role. Pretty sick that he was so good on defense whether guarding wings or PFs.
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02-09-2011 , 05:25 AM
http://www.hobartpulp.com/website/april/stradal.html

Winner IMO...

Roberto Ramos (SS)

In 1975, for the Baltimore Orioles' Rookie-league team, Ramos went 9 for 9 to begin to season, but finished 9 for 51. The slick-fielding shortstop was nonetheless promoted to low-A ball the following year where he also started the season 9 for 9 but pulled a hamstring a two weeks into the season and finished 9 for 28. He parlayed that .321 batting average into a promotion to High-A ball the following year where he once again began the season 9 for 9 but finished 9 for 77, or a batting average of .116, one of the worst ever any on level of organized ball with at least 90 plate appearances. The Orioles cut him in the offseason, and he was quickly signed by the Yankees. They promoted him straight to their major league club without even a single at-bat during spring training. He made his major league debut April 4th, pinch-hitting for Paul Blair with a runner on second and one out. He hit a deep fly ball that Milwaukee Brewers outfielder Sixto Lezcano jumped for at the warning track. The ball bounced off the top of the outfield wall and into Sixto's glove. The booth statistician scored the play as Ramos, 0 for 1. The Yankees released Roberto Ramos the next day.

However, the runner advanced to third on the play, and four days later, Howe Sportsdata issued the correction: Ramos, 0 for 0. Roberto Ramos has never played baseball since.
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