How could you read my posts and think that I have an issue with her?

I diverge from Clark that minorities can't be racist tho. I get it, but it's still fps.

Ah yes, trolling, yes. I myself enjoy trolling from time to time.

I'm sorry my message board post set off your fight or flight system. You haven't done a very good job of reading my mind.

I read precisely one of your posts in this thread, the one I responded to.

So go ahead, explain to us what "the issue" is.

Not all of their trailers have satellite dishes. Probably closer to 15%.

Well context matters, look at the posts I was responding to.

I'm not going to repost the last page. Either read more than one post, or don't.

We agree so this is asinine.

Clark, that is quite a dangerous assumption imo but I would like to ask an honest question.

Is there a platform that isn't ideal to be pushing your ideal(s) wrong, right, or otherwise? Where do you draw the line, or should there be a line regarding certain topics? And as an extension, are certain people expected to be more responsible with their words and actions?

No bait, I know you're a very intelligent guy and respect what you have to say so I just want an honest answer to better understand. If anybody else wants to add to these questions or premise feel free.

Clark is right

gregogoat bringin' the content

right???

Gregorio, at least throw down what he is right about exactly. I'm a little tired myself and probably won't add anything of substance beyond the question i asked tonight but damn son.

No? I don't care that Jemele didn't get suspended. Hypocrisy, perceived or real, doesn't bother me. It's a suckers game. I'm totally fine with espn not suspending Jemele. It even makes sense.

Clark being a ****ing dummy rustles me.

Like wtf is this post? Who is saying this?

Get'em KC.

The core issue is and always will be ethics in video game journalism.

do you not follow ANY famous black people on any social media? ANY TIME they bring up race there's someone in their mentions saying "but why bring it up? You're just making the problem worse by talking about it". Every. Single. TIme.

Jemele basically had her Mike Donnelly moment.

Fine, I'll repost the thread.

I don't have a problem with her.

The issue that golfnutt and the like have is prbly something akin to:

or potentially more nefarious, with a light sheen administered to make it more palatable.

They have every right to fire her, suspend her, whatever. But this policy only exists because ESPN doesn't want to piss off its customers. But black people and nonracists are also their customers. Companies are going to continue to face pressure to choose a side the worse things get.

"We have no comment we just want to broadcast sports." Just doesnt work anymore. Nor does "we just want to sell hamburgers. We just want to sell sneakers. We just want to sell lumber and tools." Etc

Its a perfectly legitimate tactic by the left to force corporations to be openly anti-racist.

Sorry not sorry to ESPN if Jemele Hill costs them Nascar ratings. They should absolutely be made to fear a much bigger backlash if they don't come out on the right side.

Not singling espn out. Its something that will and should keep happening all over the place.

So if she wouldn't have said anything on twitter they would have lost viewers?

And large sweeping generalizations like NASCAR fans are racist don't really help your cause.

No, why the **** would they lose viewers if she didnt tweet? Thats an asinine question and you should feel bad about yourself for asking it.

Point is that it was inevitable that something like this would happen and a "dont talk about politics" policy should be considered bull****. Political views are now intertwined into literally everything. As they should be given what the stakes currently are. If I was an employer for example i would ask every single interviewee what their political views are. Its the single most important identifier now. No one, including corporations should be allowed to abstain from having an opinion when nazis are marching in the streets.

My cause is precisely that I dont give a **** what nascar fans think. Tho im sure some of them are good people.

If you were an employer and hired people based on political affiliation you would be ass deep in either lawsuits or awful workers.

Those people are racist.

Choosing not to white knight Jemele Hill at every moment is not, except perhaps to eggshell Clark types that can't view people as individuals but see every interaction through a systematic power differential.

Clark's ethical framework--were he to hew to it consistently--would make him unlikely to ever convict a black defendant regardless of the level of guilt.

Her tact wasn't great. A million different ways she could have used her platform to bring about discussion. Using blanket statements does not. She knows that. She was obviously coming from a place of frustration and emotion. That being said, her show sucks, ratings are plummeting and ESPN is in trouble.

A publicly-traded corporation.

Lol great point fam