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09-20-2017 , 04:08 PM

#10526

Heroball

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Don't see the issue: she's way more qualified to opine on politics than sports.

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09-20-2017 , 04:19 PM

#10527

DodgerIrish

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You know what the issue is.

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09-20-2017 , 06:47 PM

#10528

EddyB66

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Originally Posted by Heroball

Don't see the issue: she's way more qualified to opine on politics than sports.

Agreed, id love to see her on a real news channel. She was great on Sports Reporters.

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09-20-2017 , 09:05 PM

#10529

golfnutt

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

Agreed, id love to see her on a real news channel. She was great on Sports Reporters.

Keith Olbermann kind of went that route into politics. It is sort of like Kapaernick taking a knee. Yeah, not illegal. Reaction might necessarily be what you thought. There could be career ramifications. Good and bad.

Last edited by golfnutt; 09-20-2017 at 09:22 PM.

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09-20-2017 , 09:49 PM

#10530

hair loss at 19_

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boycotting sportscenter is easy when I never watch it anyway. MLB and NFL networks are all I need.

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09-20-2017 , 10:56 PM

#10531

Matty Lice

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The only people that will give a **** about Jemele Hill calling Trump a White Supremacist are Trumpkins. Literally no one else will care. Let's say she interviews to get a show on MSNBC, do you really think the person interviewing her is gonna be like "Welp, we wanted to hire you but you said mean things so sorry, bye."?

I mean yea, if she tried to get a job on FOX, they'd laugh at her and shut the door. But everyone already knows that.

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09-20-2017 , 11:12 PM

#10532

EddyB66

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Originally Posted by golfnutt

Well, except Olberman is just a dick. Jemele at least seems likable.

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09-20-2017 , 11:15 PM

#10533

EddyB66

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Originally Posted by Matty Lice

If you run a sports network, it would make sense to not want your people commenting on polarizing issues. Your goal is to get as many viewers as possible. Believe it or not, a lot of people turn to sports to get away from the real world.

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09-21-2017 , 12:18 AM

#10534

golfnutt

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

This ^

I am no fan of Trump. As opposed to him as it comes.

I still believe stand during national anthem.

I also don't think a public figure that broadcasts sports should use such inflammatory language as calling our President a white supremacist.

They are certainly allowed to do it. It just will turn off a lot of people. And, even if you think it is all Trumpkins, why antagonize 30% of viewers.

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09-21-2017 , 01:45 AM

#10535

bazooka87

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I'm just really confused by that point of view. So public figures should not have any opinions which may antagonise or alienate their fans? Or just not such extreme views? Where's the line on extreme or not? Trump is clearly a racist, can she say that instead of white supremacist?

Why should, say, a plumber be allowed to do so? Just because they don't have as large a soapbox?

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09-21-2017 , 02:03 AM

#10536

ClarkNasty

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Originally Posted by golfnutt

White supremacist is hyperbole. He certainly isn't race sensitive. Tough call. Just because she thinks it doesn't mean she should write it.

Inarguably he has surrounded himself with white supremacists and the case against him personally is decidedly in favor. He's obviously super racist, the next step isn't so far given what we know about him.

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09-21-2017 , 02:08 AM

#10537

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Originally Posted by golfnutt

The idea that the very few black people who even have a platform (sports and entertainment) should just kindly STFU about an overtly racist administration and clear targeting and routine police brutality and killings is about as bad a take as it gets.

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09-21-2017 , 05:53 AM

#10538

Victor

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Originally Posted by EddyB66

Well, except Olberman is just a dick. Jemele at least seems likable.

dude ppl hate jemele. I mean, look at the comments itt.

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09-21-2017 , 07:14 AM

#10539

EddyB66

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Originally Posted by bazooka87

A plumber is allowed to, and their customers are also allowed to stop calling that person when a pipe is leaking. It's all about branding.

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09-21-2017 , 08:22 AM

#10540

DodgerIrish

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Or, it's about something else. A moral compass perhaps.

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09-21-2017 , 10:03 AM

#10541

businessdude

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Originally Posted by Matty Lice

Why are you are making the assumption she should value her job more than her beliefs?

Given her salary to talent ratio is almost infintity, she should worship her job.

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09-21-2017 , 12:04 PM

#10542

golfnutt

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Originally Posted by bazooka87

She didn't earn her audience. The audience was put there by a company that has spent billions of dollars acquiring them. She is broadcasting her personal views to them which upsets a lot of viewers and could cost the company money.

She has a responsibility to protect the assets of the shareholders of the company. Certainly the managers do.

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09-21-2017 , 12:18 PM

#10543

ClarkNasty

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She broadcast her views to her twitter followers.

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09-21-2017 , 12:27 PM

#10544

bazooka87

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What Clark said, and again you could say that about any athlete

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09-21-2017 , 12:40 PM

#10545

Riverman

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"I'm not a fan of Trump but" is the new "I'm not racist but"

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09-21-2017 , 12:43 PM

#10546

kidcolin

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Originally Posted by ClarkNasty

She broadcast her views to her twitter followers.

Which espn has ceertian policies regarding, which she seemed to violate, given they wanted to suspend her, but failed to find a replacement for for a given day.

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09-21-2017 , 12:45 PM

#10547

EddyB66

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Originally Posted by bazooka87

What Clark said, and again you could say that about any athlete

It's a little different. People typically root for the laundry, an actual host of a show has people that tune in to specifically watch them. ESPN can't figure who or what their core audience is anymore, so they rightfully so should want to hang on to every viewer they can.

I pulled the plug 6 months ago and I haven't missed it for a minute.

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09-21-2017 , 01:04 PM

#10548

DisGunBGud

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Jemele is a racist so I find the entire situation pure comedy

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09-21-2017 , 01:08 PM

#10549

EddyB66

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Now if ESPN really wanted to attract viewers, they would have a sports political show with Jemele and Schilling. Talk about ratings! It would easily be their most watched show of the year. Just let them go at it.