Well, nath is right.

Of course they failed. They failed because, as Howard himself pointed out, they're ESPN/Disney, the company that does GWB puff pieces. They're not in the business of giving a platform to writers like TNC to write uncomfortable pieces about things like reparations. That's the long and short of it.

This notion that they would have succeeded but for hiring Whitlock to head the whole thing up is absurd. Yeah, Whitlock is ****ing terrible but see above, this sort of project would never succeed at ESPN. If they somehow managed to hire someone like TNC it wouldn't elevate the site, it'd just lower TNC.

The whole argument just serves to make people feel better about consuming ESPN, as if this is wrestling and we're "smarks" instead of people (and I'm one of them) who are happily forking over their money to an absolutely awful media empire.

Do you even read, bro?

"If they wanted to..." does not mean "They have to..."

PFT Commenter podcast is the greatest thing my ears have ever listened to

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...=2&i=354484268

My only regret is that it took me over three years to realize just how stupid and terrible he is.

billy talking about tennis is awful

that's a small bit in the klosterman pod btw (on the app, can't edit the above easily)

Man you really are a little bitch anytime anyone disagrees with you

It's not so much that you disagree but that you're saying dumb **** and being obtuse. Hope that helps.

Don't think vaya cares people think he is saying dumb stuff, he's just correctly laughing at nath's hysterical handwringing.

What revolutionary idea does he have to make it 1000000x better now?

he said there should be a mercy rule when it's 4-0 in a set so people who don't care about tennis can watch matches more quickly.

It was about the worst thing I've ever heard.

I'm basically done with billy but I had to listen to Klosterman. RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE billy is like CAN THE PATS GO UNDEFEATED? jesus christ.

Gotta give CK some props on his smooth shilling for stamps.com. Dude is a natural.

This was great

he also said 'all games are too long, i'd be way more interested in tennis if it was 3 sets, i was way more into serena stuff at the US open because i knew the games would only last 3 sets max'.

heh yeah so for those who will never listen to it, the conversation was essentially:

'i still dont have intro music but it's coming and it will be sick! anyway i have chuck klosterman on the line'
'hey bill. can you give me a clue on the music?'
'no!!!'
'oh come on just a hint. is it gonna be a rock song?'
'i said no hints!!!!!'
'but there's MILLIONS of rock songs out there. surely you can tell me something?'
'ok, let's start here. CAN THE PATS GO 16-0?'

I am not gonna lie. I am eagerly awaiting the O/U NBA line pod, and will probably wager $$ based on their analysis.

They really do have a track record of doing well with these last few years.

I don't care for Jalen but he probably has the best inside info in the entire media and Billy has fully grasped the concept of omerta.

Listen to the Dunc'd On version of this. You'll have better luck

fantastic

My jaw was on the floor at his "which NFL team would hitler be a fan of" line

James Andrew Miller
‏@JimMiller

4 highly regarded @Grantland33 staffers turned in resignations today to @ESPN and will be going to work for @BillSimmons

Please tell me Simmons also insisted that if Allen Iverson had chosen tennis instead of basketball he would have been the best tennis player of all time.

there were 4 highly regarded Grantland staffers?

Yeah Lowe is really the only one that hits that