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Originally Posted by Phildo
how many posts does assani spend talking about how he thinks about basketball vs posts where he actually discusses basketball? i don't read tz much so maybe i'm wrong but it seems like the ratio is pretty crazy these days.
It seems like everyone has respect for Keith's opinion. Heres what he had to say:
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Originally Posted by kbfc
All said, Assani by himself has probably contributed more to this forum (and other 2+2 forums) than every non-maintenance modding action combined in the history of the internet.
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Originally Posted by kbfc
I became real-life friends with Assani in the first place 100% because of his posting on here, and the same is true with Bobbo.
Adding the FBG draft template might seem like an obvious negligible contribution now, but nobody else had done it, and I don't see who else would have. The scale of the exercises and the volume and thoroughness of debate they spawned is unrivaled across the entirety of 2+2 afaict, including spreading to multiple other forums, some of which have even banned Assani (or at least had for a time....I don't keep that up-to-date on these things) because they are run by morons.
To sum up his contributions as the FBG draft, biased football analysis (as if any of the rest of the self-aware lot here are above this), and a thread about Denver is silliness, and you're better than that. There is nobody on here, Bobbo excluded, who is willing to explore the depths of an argument anywhere near the level Assani will. That he is sometimes (or often, as happens when you post a lot) wrong is so completely irrelevant that I don't know what else to say. The fact that these aspects are so often seen as a negative on here is simply disappointing. Maybe the forum would be better if instead of worrying about modding meme overuse, our good veteran posters wouldn't stoke the flames with dismissive accusations of "bobbotarding" or "assanitrolling" when these guys go out of their way to post what comprises almost all of what's left of interesting, thought-provoking content in TZ these days.
His artful trolling is just icing.
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Originally Posted by kbfc
I think I estimate people's perception of them quite well, which is why I'm disappointed. If Boiling Oat Runner is causing someone to dismiss Assani's NBA posting, then I'm disappointed in them. If one thinks he or Bobbo are trolling when they post controversial statements that they may or may not believe, but think might be worth discussing in order to solidify their own understanding of a topic, same thing.
His words, not mine...take them for whatever you think they're worth. I personally don't think I'm particularly "good" at evaluating basketball; I think I'm good at being humble(yes I realize the irony in saying this) and objective and constantly questioning my own perceptions.
edit: LOL, swear I wrote that before I even saw your "humble" post above. But yeah I'm definitely arrogant in that I think I'm right a lot and I think my methodology is close to being 100% optimal, but I only feel comfortable doing that because I think that I start off with a very humble approach and don't think I can tell anything from "watching the games" or I'll instantly ask why I'm wrong when trusted authorities(such as Vegas pointspreads) disagree with me. I'm sure people think I say all these things because I'm an attention whore, and tbh that may be somewhat true. But I mainly say them because I really do think others would improve their own basketball evaluations if they took a similar approach. I swear I'm sincere in saying this.